NFFC Financial Talk

[DR Forest]

I do hope this gives extra to our appeal and predict that we might get 2 points back and more importantly an admission (therefore accounting taken forward) that our promotion bonusses and Covid allowances should not have counted towards the PSR.

Then I think we only went over by £3M or something?? And wouldn't have to fire sell anyone this summer prior to June 30th just to comply with their stupid rules??

I said much the same on page 130 Shawoddy. 
Get 20m+ credit back for PSR and we don’t need to sell Murillo if we are sensible.

Although if we are estimating any further losses based on the Everton judgement (reduction for double jeopardy etc) then why bother reining it in at all.

[Jean_claude_killy]

Quite a few people on social media now making the point that should Forest breach again for this season, following the method we get 3 points off but reduced by 2 points for double jeopardy therefore 1 point penalty.
So basically carry on spending, don’t sell anyone and take the 1 point hit next year.

Naturally logic like that won’t actually follow though, we will get 13 points off for having a manager with a beard or some other nonsense they make up.

There is no double jeopardy, it is a ridiculous assertion by whoever came up with it.

Double jeopardy is being charged with the same crime twice; that has definitely not happened.

Everton have been charged with two distinctly different charges, a breach in the 21/22 season, in one particular three year cycle and a breach in the 22/23 season in another three year cycle.

The fact that Everton breached the rules in two consecutive cycles should have seen an increase in the punishment not a decrease

The fact that both have been addressed in the same season is absurd and a terrible indictment on the PL.

[The reds]

Allowing another hearing not under current guidelines has opened up a can of worms, Everton’s breach is potentially up to 40m not the 16.6m. The rules were set out any breach would be dealt with this season so how can you change that, I expect clubs including us threaten legal action over the PL.

[Forest1970]

Allowing another hearing not under current guidelines has opened up a can of worms, Everton’s breach is potentially up to 40m not the 16.6m. The rules were set out any breach would be dealt with this season so how can you change that, I expect clubs including us threaten legal action over the PL.

I don't think they'll be any threat on our part it'll be a dead cert we'll go down the legal route when thew big man says go. The Premier League has most certainly opened a big f**k off can of worms and I personally think Masters is beginning to sh*t himself now because he knows they've f**ked up royally.

[wassy04]

Allowing another hearing not under current guidelines has opened up a can of worms, Everton’s breach is potentially up to 40m not the 16.6m. The rules were set out any breach would be dealt with this season so how can you change that, I expect clubs including us threaten legal action over the PL.

I don't think they'll be any threat on our part it'll be a dead cert we'll go down the legal route when thew big man says go. The Premier League has most certainly opened a big f**k off can of worms and I personally think Masters is beginning to sh*t himself now because he knows they've f**ked up royally.

I'm sure we probably will go down the legal route if relegated but I'm not sure what possible outcome we could get. Some kind of compensation? Not like they're going to change who is in which league once a new season has started. What would be the point? I'm not really sure what case we have anyway.

[JollyLolly]

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

[wassy04]

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be shit but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

As I understand most of the inconsistencies are as a result of the clubs choosing to have all PSR cases dealt with individually and not as a fixed punishment.
Which sounds good in theory but its lead to a farcical situation where different committees are looking at different circumstances and coming up with different conclusions.
In other words The PL created a mess, the clubs voted for the mess.

[wassy04]

As I understand most of the inconsistencies are as a result of the clubs choosing to have all PSR cases dealt with individually and not as a fixed punishment.
Which sounds good in theory but its lead to a farcical situation where different committees are looking at different circumstances and coming up with different conclusions.
In other words The PL created a mess, the clubs voted for the mess.

Yeah I think this is the misunderstanding that the PL is some kind of entity (like the EFL) which has overriding power. However, that's not the case, it is just a group of member clubs that decide everything, the CEO is there to implement the clubs wishes. All the issues that have occurred are things which have been voted on. Forest as an example have regularly voted with the "Big Six".

[JollyLolly]

Wassy I hear what you say but even a private members club (PL) has to be covered by standards and laws outside of its own "in-house agreements" if we take this further to seek a proper legal ruling it will not be pretty for the PL or others interested parties and could blow matters out of the water.

[Jean_claude_killy]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

[JollyLolly]

Thanks JCK even the mighty PL has to be overseen by the laws of the land