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(27-04-2021, 02:25 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (27-04-2021, 01:42 PM)stirred Wrote: (27-04-2021, 12:17 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (27-04-2021, 11:37 AM)stirred Wrote: (27-04-2021, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: Team for next year not as bad as we think
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? Worral McKenna ?
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Team this year not as bad as some think
Yeah we were robbed of a playoff place, really shouldn't have listened to all those times CH and Sabri told them to play badly
My comment seems perfectly reasonable, basically agreeing on optimism for next year with a cheekiness as I think we’ve underperformed this year and the squad is better than many think.
You can disagree, but what is your response about? It’s the same again - distorting and exaggerating what I’ve said to try to discredit it.
It’s ok to have a different opinion!
I felt your comment was a sly dig at the manager (of which I remembered you as being overly and unnecessarily critical) Apologies if I am confusing you with other posters, it's hard to keep track of the manager out brigade, that come out after every loss.
It is ok to have a different opinion I agree, it's also ok to criticise said opinion if it feels like it is having a negative effect, which I think the constant pointless calls for the manager to be sacked have.
I actually think it has been forgotten that we had quite an unlucky run of games which we somehow didn't win, whereas it was pretty much the opposite last year
Just replied to you on another thread. It was a bit of a sly dig yeah, but nothing below the belt. Fwiw I liked to see the results of the poll, it's good to get a feel for how many feel what way.
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(27-04-2021, 11:52 AM)Madforit Wrote: (27-04-2021, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: Team for next year not as bad as we think
Samba
? Worral McKenna ?
Yates colback/Cafu
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No Ameobi ?
If we can add Christie garner ameobi keep llanou carvho and spend big on a striker and goal scoring midfielder we are sorted
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(27-04-2021, 03:29 PM)tugger2018 Wrote: (27-04-2021, 11:52 AM)Madforit Wrote: (27-04-2021, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: Team for next year not as bad as we think
Samba
? Worral McKenna ?
Yates colback/Cafu
Lolley Brennan mighten
Grabban
No Ameobi ?
If we can add Christie, Garner, Ameobi, keep loannou and carvalho and spend big on a striker and goal scoring midfielder we are sorted
Fixed that for you.
We would still need another keeper, another striker and another winger to be competitive.
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Just checked the result of the poll and over 72% have voted to give CH the entirety of next season unless we actually look like we are going down (I would say there is no chance of that).
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(28-04-2021, 07:50 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Just checked the result of the poll and over 72% have voted to give CH the entirety of next season unless we actually look like we are going down (I would say there is no chance of that).
I havent voted on that poll, mainly because there is no need to realistically ask the question.
Every time there is a manager sacked at our club, the same old lines come trotting out.......Changing managers all the time doesn't work, we need stability, more money being wasted on paying off an ex-manager, a team full of someone else's players etc, etc, and those comments are spot on!
If ever there was a manager worthy of getting the sack due to poor performances and results, its Wayne Rooney, down at the Sheep Dip but up to now, Derby have stood by him (probably as a result of nobody knowing what the f**k they are doing down there, but that's their problem, not ours).
CH has a very good CV in terms of stabilising a side and then transforming them into a good side. He has been defensive this season, to get us to where we are now............safe in the championship and a close season in which to ship out, move on and bring in players.
Now is not the time to consider bringing in a new manager FGS!!! If we were in Derby's position, then yes, fine, go for it, but we aren't and we have got a very good chance of becoming a much more challenging threat next season.
If others think we should get rid of CH, that is of course their opinion. But based on what? This season? Sorry, but IMO this season has always been about bringing confidence back into a shattered side, getting stability into our performances and ensuring we finish the season safe.
Next season on the other hand, is something quite different!!
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Well said tricky lad. Couldn't agree more.
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(28-04-2021, 09:09 AM)Tricky Wrote: (28-04-2021, 07:50 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Just checked the result of the poll and over 72% have voted to give CH the entirety of next season unless we actually look like we are going down (I would say there is no chance of that).
I havent voted on that poll, mainly because there is no need to realistically ask the question.
Every time there is a manager sacked at our club, the same old lines come trotting out.......Changing managers all the time doesn't work, we need stability, more money being wasted on paying off an ex-manager, a team full of someone else's players etc, etc, and those comments are spot on!
If ever there was a manager worthy of getting the sack due to poor performances and results, its Wayne Rooney, down at the Sheep Dip but up to now, Derby have stood by him (probably as a result of nobody knowing what the f**k they are doing down there, but that's their problem, not ours).
CH has a very good CV in terms of stabilising a side and then transforming them into a good side. He has been defensive this season, to get us to where we are now............safe in the championship and a close season in which to ship out, move on and bring in players.
Now is not the time to consider bringing in a new manager FGS!!! If we were in Derby's position, then yes, fine, go for it, but we aren't and we have got a very good chance of becoming a much more challenging threat next season.
If others think we should get rid of CH, that is of course their opinion. But based on what? This season? Sorry, but IMO this season has always been about bringing confidence back into a shattered side, getting stability into our performances and ensuring we finish the season safe.
Next season on the other hand, is something quite different!!
The purpose of the poll was to prove to those that think we should change manager that they are very much in the minority and that the majority want stability above all else. I think the poll proves this so I'm not really sure what the problem with it. Just because the answer is obvious doesn't mean these temperature check type polls don't have polls. I would say the answer is more positive than I expected, shows that we need to be more vocal in shutting down the "sack the manager brigade", given they're clearly in a small minority
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I can remember all the Sabri polls.
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I think the poll clearly proves your point Wassy and so the poll did it's job.
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stability is terrific if you are getting stronger or gaining momentum and helps to muster an extra surge of energy
the sort of stability we have now is about a feeling, a sort of the shock of not having sacked anyone and a manager who looks like a fitting candidate to be the bridge between sameness and dullness
stability would feel psychedelic if we had a vibrant, intelligent, motivational manager who had galavanised a bunch of misfits into a fighting force, but we have none of that, except this 'stability' thing
i think we need a revolution more than stability oh but yes we have to pretend we have the foundations for success when in reality we have nothing more than a footballing equivalent of the broadmarsh shopping centre
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I have now voted on the poll, more out of respect for Wassy's reasons for conducting the poll. rather than I felt there was a need to do so in the first place.
I have voted to give the manager the entirety of next season to prove himself.
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(28-04-2021, 05:20 PM)Tricky Wrote: I have now voted on the poll, more out of respect for Wassy's reasons for conducting the poll. rather than I felt there was a need to do so in the first place.
I have voted to give the manager the entirety of next season to prove himself.
Thanks! Will run the same poll after a month of next season as its a good temperature check. I'm sure EM will start using them soon enough...
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