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(16-12-2019, 09:36 PM)Karanka red Wrote: (16-12-2019, 09:29 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (16-12-2019, 09:17 PM)Karanka red Wrote: Were not going to attract Silva to the championship. Right now we should not be contemplating changing managers
Deja Vu.
SA.
True, anything is possible! Shock possible?
Something doesn't feel right. Doesn't sit well about 1 win in 6.
Sniffer Dog said something about a Watford approach for The Coach.
Recent performances haven't been convincing. A total capitulation suggests something is 'off.' It's not a one off. Forest haven't been glittering for a while.
Lolly seems a shadow of his former self. Worrall and Dawson seemed like strangers on Saturday.
And the midfield had no fight or bite. Even Ameobi ambled off the goal line and half heartedly jumped for a goal line clearance which he missed.
Cash ballooned his cross into the skies.
It was a shambles. And it's not the 1st time Forest have been sent out ill prepared for a 1st half of football.
Dawson and The Coach's 'picture' on the interview links on the website before the Wednesday match. They both looked flat as pancakes. Often, a picture paused from a video can be telling.
I'm wondering if there was a big bust up about the last minute capitulations in the last two games. But in truth, Forest have won once in 6 games. Their charmed existence early in the season was built on the platform of the human bulldozer Sow.
Without him, they've swirled down to a mid-table team. Which doesn't seem 'that different' to last season's over achievers.
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Calling it a 'one off' (in terms of the 4:0) t-humping (you can drop the t in that word if it helps...) only masks the fact that Forest have had a lot of 'one offs' and looked likely to loose the Millwall game from the start and never looked like getting back into that game.
Until they did.
Cardiff too. Forest seemed lost. Wigan's experimental line up was a disaster too. Forest, it seems obvious to me, don't have the option to be 'experimental.'
Forest were undone by Wednesday who are everything Forest aren't in terms of a team that can mix it for the Championship.
Of course, I want Forest to succeed. I hope they prove me wrong on Saturday.
Have Forest and The Coach been found out? If ever our away form may bail 'us' out, the next game needs to be it.
But if the wheels fall off our away form?
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(16-12-2019, 09:20 PM)Alf Wrote: Totally agree SA.
I've taken the whaz a few times with some about how they wanted MON gone, and essentially we've got him in French form, right down to benching Carvalho.
Unfortunately some players wanted him gone too.
Massive test for Sabri on Saturday and we'll also find out if the players are with him or not.
Hope it works out for him.
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Before the last few results, we heard again and again that the players loved the coach and the atmosphere in the team was great. Have things changed, or have we just had a bad couple of results?
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Way too much negativity here, championship is tight we drew two games we should’ve won with late concessions and lost to Cardiff where we had 30 shots. Clearly we’re lacking in attacking options and it’s stretching the squad right now but we’re still a home game v reading from 3rd.
The performances have been broadly consistent (Saturday aside), tight defensively, close games where we’ve got some good results was never under an illusion we were better than that but it’s not like any other teams around us (aside from the top two) are any better.
I think we need to take a view whilst looking at other teams too. In terms of the manager I feel he’s made a few mistakes lately but I don’t mind the experimentation, I think he needs to adapt the tactics somewhat at home more than he’s doing, we’re too slow going forward and too much aimless crossing. This can easily be adjusted though.
Be good to win Saturday and everyone to calm down
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Nice post Wassy and I agree with what you said.
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(17-12-2019, 12:56 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Way too much negativity here, championship is tight we drew two games we should’ve won with late concessions and lost to Cardiff where we had 30 shots. Clearly we’re lacking in attacking options and it’s stretching the squad right now but we’re still a home game v reading from 3rd.
The performances have been broadly consistent (Saturday aside), tight defensively, close games where we’ve got some good results was never under an illusion we were better than that but it’s not like any other teams around us (aside from the top two) are any better.
I think we need to take a view whilst looking at other teams too. In terms of the manager I feel he’s made a few mistakes lately but I don’t mind the experimentation, I think he needs to adapt the tactics somewhat at home more than he’s doing, we’re too slow going forward and too much aimless crossing. This can easily be adjusted though.
Be good to win Saturday and everyone to calm down
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Other teams have blips who make the play offs, but many of them stick by their manager and back him. Jeez even Cloughie had bad runs throughout his tenure. This is a non conversation. Sabri has shown he has the know how up to this point. Of course Saturday was painful and horrible to watch.
It is when we hit adversity that we find out more about ourselves, as a team, coach, club and supporters. Personally, I sang all through 2nd half alongside crazy seat banging guy in A block, kind of gallows humour. Equally, I totally understand and do not judge those who left at HT, I was close.
I really feel we may have stumbled across the right man for us, but it takes time. How well he did so far is amazing from a standing start. December will be rubbish then we will see, maybe a Villa style surge? Here's hoping.
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Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
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(18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Yep. If they dont they all want f***ing off.
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(18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Big test for Forest. Here's hoping the real Forest turn up.
But a big part of that 'real' Forest was Sow and Rib'. And they've been out injured. They are extra class and ability Forest don't have without them and haven't got the players to replace that either.
It's no coincidence Forest's 'slide' has occurred without him. And it's not just the recent results, performances have been less convincing with him. Jack Robbo' is being targeted by the opposition for a while now and it's not been great.
Regardless, The Coach will have to work with what's available and 3 points feels like a must win to stop a potential further slide down the table.
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(18-12-2019, 09:23 PM)Paplane Wrote: (18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Yep. If they dont they all want f***ing off.
I think we will be ok. Player power was one of the reasons MON got sacked we cannot allow that to happen again.
Don't think it will be an issue but we will learn a lot on Saturday.
Good Luck Sabri.
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(18-12-2019, 09:23 PM)Paplane Wrote: (18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Yep. If they dont they all want f***ing off.
How have we reached that stage after having such a good season?
1 bad game.
Let's see how this next month goes and focus on signing the players any manager would need to do well with us.
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