Are We Going Down?
Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.
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I keep banging on about this but at least try with 2 strikers up top and the rest of them pressing much higher up gthe pitch. We may get caught by quick breaks but at least we would have a more constant presence in the opposition box, we just have to change unless we do we are doomed.
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(01-03-2026, 08:25 PM)Username Wrote: Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.

I think his head has been turned by the few clubs after him so if that's the case get as much as possible for him
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(01-03-2026, 08:40 PM)Forest1970 Wrote:
(01-03-2026, 08:25 PM)Username Wrote: Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.

I think his head has been turned by the few clubs after him so if that's the case get as much as possible for him

Problem is all these turned heads was apparently because they didn't like running a couple of weeks ago. Ultimately they've not played for anyone this season apart from against top 6
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This player power stuff is half the problem. They didn’t want to play for Ange, they didn’t want to play for Dyche, have some of them decided they don’t want to play for Vitor after 4 games as well. Where does it stop?
Many arent as good as they think and certainly aren’t getting the move to Chelsea they are dreaming of. Lets see how they enjoy playing for Gary Rowett on a wet Tuesday in Preston.
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(01-03-2026, 08:25 PM)Username Wrote: Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.

That’s absolute tosh !
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(01-03-2026, 09:44 PM)Reds73 Wrote:
(01-03-2026, 08:25 PM)Username Wrote: Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.

That’s absolute tosh !

You may think so but perhaps you don’t know everything that goes on.
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(01-03-2026, 08:04 PM)Username Wrote: As I’ve said on another thread, Dyche picked up points in five of his last six league games where he was in charge.

I absolutely wholeheartedly unequivocally believe we would have stayed up with him in charge. Would it have been shyte to watch? Absolutely.

Do I believe we will stay up having watched the last three games? Not a chance.

Going back to my question. Do you think we will stay up based upon the last three games?

He also picked up points in 5 of his last 10 games as he lost the previous 4 games bwfore that too. I didn't have a strong anti Dyche opinion but this last 6 games thing is tiring.

The last 6 games included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect more points than that whoever the manager is, its certainly not an achievement to beat one out of four.
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(01-03-2026, 09:46 PM)Username Wrote:
(01-03-2026, 09:44 PM)Reds73 Wrote:
(01-03-2026, 08:25 PM)Username Wrote: Well Murillo definitely doesn’t want to play for Vitor judging by the last two games and some of the things that have been rumoured.

Some of these players simply aren’t as good as they think they are and if the hierarchy are taking their views in making these changes then we reap what we sow.

That’s absolute tosh !

You may think so but perhaps you don’t know everything that goes on.

Of course i dont !
But I do know there is a really good relationship with VP and the Brazilian lads 
And there is a very good relationship between EM and Murillo.
Dyche on the other hand …….
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(01-03-2026, 08:04 PM)Username Wrote: As I’ve said on another thread, Dyche picked up points in five of his last six league games where he was in charge.

I absolutely wholeheartedly unequivocally believe we would have stayed up with him in charge. Would it have been shyte to watch? Absolutely.

Do I believe we will stay up having watched the last three games? Not a chance.

Going back to my question. Do you think we will stay up based upon the last three games?

Obviously not alone in this. Wouldn't have been pretty but we'd have got there, parted ways with handshake
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I don’t care whether they liked Dyche or not. Players who don’t like their manager are usually the ones not getting in the team so we can hazard a guess at who the main complainers were.

In Dyches last 9 games the only really poor performance was vs Leeds and they duff up a lot of teams. Other than that it was Braga and Wrexham where we rotated heavily. The other 6 games he either got results or we played reasonably well.

All irrelevant now, just wonder how we will feel if Vitor does take us down. He has taken 3 points from his last 16 PL games, doesn’t fill me with optimism.
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(01-03-2026, 10:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: I don’t care whether they liked Dyche or not. Players who don’t like their manager are usually the ones not getting in the team so we can hazard a guess at who the main complainers were.

In Dyches last 9 games the only really poor performance was vs Leeds and they duff up a lot of teams. Other than that it was Braga and Wrexham where we rotated heavily. The other 6 games he either got results or we played reasonably well.

All irrelevant now, just wonder how we will feel if Vitor does take us down. He has taken 3 points from his last 16 PL games, doesn’t fill me with optimism.

Why are we excluding the previous 4 games which included dreadful performances vs Everton, Villa and Fulham? 

I was on the fence on Dyche but this is annoying me that people are cutting off at 6 games which conveniently includes four of the bottom 5/6 teams. Of course we were going to get results in those games, they are the easier games.
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