Are We Going Down?

[Jimmygordon]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

[BomberBowyer]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

I think you are right. At some point WHU and Leeds results surely will change. It’s just whether we can get 4 more wins or 3 and some draws.

[DeesideRed]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

They have Nuno. They literally can.

[Paplane]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

They have Nuno. They literally can.

I'd agree they can. Forget your XG stats and all that nonsense. The eye test tells you that Nuno has sorted out West Ham and they're now playing as good as any mid table side now. They have purpose, are confident and they've got their fans back on site. Compare that us if we don't win tonight. We look utterly dreadful on the pitch, seem to have no game plan, we have a manager who it's pretty much universally accepted won't be the coach next season, and make no mistake, unless 3 points is delivered tonight, a fan group who will be toxic.

[Reds73]

Anyone who can predict football matches is lying !
If you could you would win the fixed odds every week and be millionaires.

[wassy04]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

They have Nuno. They literally can.

I'd agree they can. Forget your XG stats and all that nonsense. The eye test tells you that Nuno has sorted out West Ham and they're now playing as good as any mid table side now. They have purpose, are confident and they've got their fans back on site. Compare that us if we don't win tonight. We look utterly dreadful on the pitch, seem to have no game plan, we have a manager who it's pretty much universally accepted won't be the coach next season, and make no mistake, unless 3 points is delivered tonight, a fan group who will be toxic.

I agree West Ham look better recently but then they also looked awful in Dec and are very reliant on a few players. We also looked pretty good in January and showed we are capable, even under Dyche, of getting points against the top sides. That Leeds game was obviously a disaster but it wasn't long ago that West Ham got tanked by Wolves. Need some perspective here.

Perhaps we need to reassess after tonight!

[wassy04]

The Opta model still has us as only a 15% chance of relegation obviously that % likely has a win tonight built in.

Their model projects the remaining games based on betting odds and their own rankings, so gives you an idea of strength of schedule remaining. It likely won't take into account the impact of European games though. Either way, it does go against the feeling on here (and very much in my house too) than we are favourites to go down!

[Paplane]

The Opta model still has us as only a 15% chance of relegation obviously that % likely has a win tonight built in.

Their model projects the remaining games based on betting odds and their own rankings, so gives you an idea of strength of schedule remaining. It likely won't take into account the impact of European games though. Either way, it does go against the feeling on here (and very much in my house too) than we are favourites to go down!

Is that the same Opta that had us 85% or something to qualify for the champions league last year lol?

[Paplane]

WHU can not keep doing what they are doing.

It's always been 4 wins to stay up

They have Nuno. They literally can.

I'd agree they can. Forget your XG stats and all that nonsense. The eye test tells you that Nuno has sorted out West Ham and they're now playing as good as any mid table side now. They have purpose, are confident and they've got their fans back on site. Compare that us if we don't win tonight. We look utterly dreadful on the pitch, seem to have no game plan, we have a manager who it's pretty much universally accepted won't be the coach next season, and make no mistake, unless 3 points is delivered tonight, a fan group who will be toxic.

I agree West Ham look better recently but then they also looked awful in Dec and are very reliant on a few players. We also looked pretty good in January and showed we are capable, even under Dyche, of getting points against the top sides. That Leeds game was obviously a disaster but it wasn't long ago that West Ham got tanked by Wolves. Need some perspective here.

Perhaps we need to reassess after tonight!

We do, I'll certainly feel a lot better if we can win tonight, I'm sure.

[wassy04]

The Opta model still has us as only a 15% chance of relegation obviously that % likely has a win tonight built in.

Their model projects the remaining games based on betting odds and their own rankings, so gives you an idea of strength of schedule remaining. It likely won't take into account the impact of European games though. Either way, it does go against the feeling on here (and very much in my house too) than we are favourites to go down!

Is that the same Opta that had us 85% or something to qualify for the champions league last year lol?

Ha yep! Just gives you an idea of what kind of collapse is required I guess.

[PsychoStooge]

Yes. Absolutely useless.

[wassy04]

Yes. Absolutely useless.

I also say yes, this team is absolute shit. I'm honestly surprised we've got as many points as we do.