Dyche In/Out

[Paplane]

But having said the above, I do actually think he's doing OK. He might not be a long term manager for us but he's probably what we need right here, right now.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

I think the problem Dyche has is he comes across as being a bit arrogant, always telling fans what a good job he's doing, always saying how hard it is to get a result in the prem, like we should be really thankful to him that he's saving our club from, what would have been without him, an inevitable relegation. He gives the odd bit of praise to fans but you can tell this is just for pr purposes, you can tell he just thinks fans are know nowts and just an irritating impediment to him doing the great job he thinks he's doing.

Now he might be right about those kind of things, but I've quickly become tired of his message, especially when it follows a few really poor performances. I think a lot of it is probably down to him having a career that based on self preservation. I guess the Everton fans got bored of him telling them they were shite and lucky to be staying up.

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

[Paplane]

I think the problem Dyche has is he comes across as being a bit arrogant, always telling fans what a good job he's doing, always saying how hard it is to get a result in the prem, like we should be really thankful to him that he's saving our club from, what would have been without him, an inevitable relegation. He gives the odd bit of praise to fans but you can tell this is just for pr purposes, you can tell he just thinks fans are know nowts and just an irritating impediment to him doing the great job he thinks he's doing.

Now he might be right about those kind of things, but I've quickly become tired of his message, especially when it follows a few really poor performances. I think a lot of it is probably down to him having a career that based on self preservation. I guess the Everton fans got bored of him telling them they were shite and lucky to be staying up.

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

[Jean_claude_killy]

I think the problem Dyche has is he comes across as being a bit arrogant, always telling fans what a good job he's doing, always saying how hard it is to get a result in the prem, like we should be really thankful to him that he's saving our club from, what would have been without him, an inevitable relegation. He gives the odd bit of praise to fans but you can tell this is just for pr purposes, you can tell he just thinks fans are know nowts and just an irritating impediment to him doing the great job he thinks he's doing.

Now he might be right about those kind of things, but I've quickly become tired of his message, especially when it follows a few really poor performances. I think a lot of it is probably down to him having a career that based on self preservation. I guess the Everton fans got bored of him telling them they were shite and lucky to be staying up.

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

Yes, he certainly did love us, but how would his low block football sit with the idealists?

[DeesideRed]

For me Dyche has done okay nothing more and nothing less.

He came with a mission and we are on course to achieve that mission.

However nots let get carried away because he has been nominated for manager of the month. It's most likely all to do with Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool and Villa all stuttering more than anything else.

I haven't checked but I think we are one place higher in the table since Dyche took over so there is a touch of reality there.

I like Sean but to be fair there are two sides to this debate. I don't think either side is completely black or white.

All views seem valid although they are opposites.

We sit 10th in the form table for the games Dyche has been in charge, with 21 points from 16 games; surely that is all he can be judged on.

The mess he inheritted should not be under estimated - Ange left us in a downward spiral with confidence levels at an all time low for this bunch of players.

Compare that with Nuno during his first half season, where, despite us finishing 17th in the league, he had us at 13th in the current form table with 22 points from 20 games.

That is not the only comparison with Nuno; I recall that at the time, there was also dissafection for the style of football he was playing, and that continued into the following season.

Whatever Dyche achieves between now and the end of the season, I cannot see it being enough for EM.

Do you think that Silva's agent will prevent him becoming our next manager?

This is a good thing to remember. Plenty complained about subs and scraping over the line. This squad is setup for Nuno which makes Dyche a natural fit.

[Username]

So finishing fourth bottom would be a great success?

Don't think EM will see it that way.

The knives may be out tonight we will wait and see.

The Dyche for England campaign may start if we win.

I never said it was. 

I don’t think any of the positive Dyche comments advocate him managing the national team, or ever will, and I suspect a large proportion do not advocate him beyond the end of the season.

It’s all about recognising the circumstances he was dealt and ensuring we avoid the worse case scenario.

[Paplane]

I think the problem Dyche has is he comes across as being a bit arrogant, always telling fans what a good job he's doing, always saying how hard it is to get a result in the prem, like we should be really thankful to him that he's saving our club from, what would have been without him, an inevitable relegation. He gives the odd bit of praise to fans but you can tell this is just for pr purposes, you can tell he just thinks fans are know nowts and just an irritating impediment to him doing the great job he thinks he's doing.

Now he might be right about those kind of things, but I've quickly become tired of his message, especially when it follows a few really poor performances. I think a lot of it is probably down to him having a career that based on self preservation. I guess the Everton fans got bored of him telling them they were shite and lucky to be staying up.

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

Yes, he certainly did love us, but how would his low block football sit with the idealists?

Always loved the man, but really fell out with his football. After his low block achieved success, he was reluctant/unable to move away from it. That did for him eventually.

[wassy04]

I think the problem Dyche has is he comes across as being a bit arrogant, always telling fans what a good job he's doing, always saying how hard it is to get a result in the prem, like we should be really thankful to him that he's saving our club from, what would have been without him, an inevitable relegation. He gives the odd bit of praise to fans but you can tell this is just for pr purposes, you can tell he just thinks fans are know nowts and just an irritating impediment to him doing the great job he thinks he's doing.

Now he might be right about those kind of things, but I've quickly become tired of his message, especially when it follows a few really poor performances. I think a lot of it is probably down to him having a career that based on self preservation. I guess the Everton fans got bored of him telling them they were shite and lucky to be staying up.

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

Yes, he certainly did love us, but how would his low block football sit with the idealists?

Always loved the man, but really fell out with his football. After his low block achieved success, he was reluctant/unable to move away from it. That did for him eventually.

He tried to be attacking in the first year and then switched to the low block tactic. I mean we've pretty much played the same tactic under Nuno and now Dyche. Just had better players than under Cooper. We were pretty attacking in the EFL too, shouldn't be forgotten.

[Paplane]

Beats Ange talking endlessly about himself and his time at Tottenham.

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

Yes, he certainly did love us, but how would his low block football sit with the idealists?

Always loved the man, but really fell out with his football. After his low block achieved success, he was reluctant/unable to move away from it. That did for him eventually.

He tried to be attacking in the first year and then switched to the low block tactic. I mean we've pretty much played the same tactic under Nuno and now Dyche. Just had better players than under Cooper. We were pretty attacking in the EFL too, shouldn't be forgotten.

It was more negative than Nuno's game. Our recent game at Brentford reminded me very much of a Cooper game. For a large part we were pinned back and unable to even find an out ball. We'd clear, fail to hold the ball up, lose it and it'd come right back. We couldn't string more than 2 passes together it was that poor.

[wassy04]

Bring back Cooper, he loved us and let us know it!

Yes, he certainly did love us, but how would his low block football sit with the idealists?

Always loved the man, but really fell out with his football. After his low block achieved success, he was reluctant/unable to move away from it. That did for him eventually.

He tried to be attacking in the first year and then switched to the low block tactic. I mean we've pretty much played the same tactic under Nuno and now Dyche. Just had better players than under Cooper. We were pretty attacking in the EFL too, shouldn't be forgotten.

It was more negative than Nuno's game. Our recent game at Brentford reminded me very much of a Cooper game. For a large part we were pinned back and unable to even find an out ball. We'd clear, fail to hold the ball up, lose it and it'd come right back. We couldn't string more than 2 passes together it was that poor.

Well yeah Nuno had better players, aside from that Newcastle game straight away Nuno's performances were pretty similar when he took over. The signings made that summer massively upgraded the team, Anderson & Milenkovic made a big impact. You could also say Nuno's coaching improved the likes of Elanga, Wood, CHO, Neco which would be fair too.

There's definitely been a regression this year, partly just due to the situation and injuries though under Dyche. Looked noticeably better since Aina and Sangare have come back in. I fear what it'll be like tonight without Neco though.

[ozzyten10]

Short memories- look at the equaliser v Man City under cooper.
Cooper always a hero to me…
Nuno - a large amount of respect from me but he has form when he wants out…
Ange - always the wrong fit - reminded me of Joe Kinnear with his lack of connection with the fans…
Dyche - jury out but very difficult job when he came in. Enjoyed some games of his - spurs / Liverpool / Arsenal for different reasons / Porto… but hated others Braga / Everton twice … we seem to have stopped shipping goals but need more in attack. Hope we do!

[RyanR]

At this point we need to try and stay up and hope we can convince Marco Silva to join in the Summer