Crap Referees

[ToryTom]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

[ToryTom]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

If we get relegated it isn’t Howard Webbs fault

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

How must the players and managers be feeling when the club seemingly creates a never ending circus of distraction around them?

Come on SM you are better than that.

That doesn't even warrant a reply.

There is some really good debate on here today and that is what makes this forum the best.

Lets not go and spoil it.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

If we get relegated it isn’t Howard Webbs fault

He would have played his part as would the 2 managers, the players and owner.

Lets not pretend we haven't lost points because of some refereeing decisions because that would be telling lies.

Part of it would be Webbs fault but lets be man enough to say that the managers, players and owner would be at fault too.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

How must the players and managers be feeling when the club seemingly creates a never ending circus of distraction around them?

Come on SM you are better than that.

That doesn't even warrant a reply.

There is some really good debate on here today and that is what makes this forum the best.

Lets not go and spoil it.

You don’t need to reply and yes there has been some very good debate on here.

However I am fed up with the club constantly being in the headlines for issues other than football. I simply do not believe it is helpful in any way when the team is battling to survive.

[Username]

If mine is a minority opinion then fair enough. IMO think both the fans plus the ownership and management are getting distracted from what is important. I haven’t noticed a siege mentality from the team.

Also I think you are failing to realise if we are no longer a Premier League club, we are no longer newsworthy. We get relegated, we go back to being an afterthought, on a different page in football websites, we can moan and wail and produce reams of evidence but nobody will hear it.

You aren’t in a minority. 

It could be argued that these events favour the owners because it will distract from the rank mismanagement of breaching PSR.

[Percyflage]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

[ToryTom]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

I bet Huddersfield Towns fans are having a chuckle about the years of some of ours about refereeing decisions in big matches. There wasn’t conspiracy then to get us back into the premier league and there isn’t one now to take us down. There are a lot of rubbish officials. Other teams like Wolves have probably been the victim of worst howlers than us this season

[The reds]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

I bet Huddersfield Towns fans are having a chuckle about the years of some of ours about refereeing decisions in big matches. There wasn’t conspiracy then to get us back into the premier league and there isn’t one now to take us down. There are a lot of rubbish officials. Other teams like Wolves have probably been the victim of worst howlers than us this season

I have never seen you say anything positive about Forest?

[Percyflage]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

I bet Huddersfield Towns fans are having a chuckle about the years of some of ours about refereeing decisions in big matches. There wasn’t conspiracy then to get us back into the premier league and there isn’t one now to take us down. There are a lot of rubbish officials. Other teams like Wolves have probably been the victim of worst howlers than us this season

Not for the first time you appear to be fighting a phantom argument of your own creation.

[ToryTom]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

I bet Huddersfield Towns fans are having a chuckle about the years of some of ours about refereeing decisions in big matches. There wasn’t conspiracy then to get us back into the premier league and there isn’t one now to take us down. There are a lot of rubbish officials. Other teams like Wolves have probably been the victim of worst howlers than us this season

Not for the first time you appear to be fighting a phantom argument of your own creation.

So what has Luton Town got to do with anything then

[nffc93]

Someone on Twitter made a list of seventeen incorrect decisions we'd been on the wrong end of this season. That works out at one every two matches (though the spread is different of course).

That's a *lot* of bad luck. I thought refereeing decisions 'evened themselves out' over the season.

As if we have been the only team to get howlers this season. Wolves have had it at least as bad. They aren’t going around making unsubstantiated implications of cheating. The truth is the standard of officiating in the premier league is shocking and getting worse. VAR has in part been a factor in the deterioration of standards and how it is used currently is making it worse still. Some fans are coming over as paranoid and obsessed with being victims. Truth is referring is poor and our team is not very good and capable of getting itself clear from a relegation scrap also involving three of the weakest to compete in the league at the same time.

No one has said that Forest have been exclusively wronged by bad decisions. And dismissing potential bias as incompetence is as flaky as claiming as fact that that Forest are being deliberately targeted. None of us bar Atwell know what was in his head when rejecting three valid penalty calls. But conflict of interest protections exist throughout organisational cultures precisely in order that the potential for decisions deriving from self interest are obviated. The PGMOL/Webb wilfully discarded conflict of interest protections in this case. They are also avoiding transparency around Atwell's decisions, creating smoke and mirrors around the extent to which Forest objected prior to the game, and are benefitting from a media establishment clamour that may well yet see Forest demonstrably punished for speaking up. None of this smells good, and incompetence alone does not explain the attempted cover up.

I bet Huddersfield Towns fans are having a chuckle about the years of some of ours about refereeing decisions in big matches. There wasn’t conspiracy then to get us back into the premier league and there isn’t one now to take us down. There are a lot of rubbish officials. Other teams like Wolves have probably been the victim of worst howlers than us this season

Who gives a f**k about Huddersfield