NFFC Financial Talk

[wassy04]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

[Jean_claude_killy]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

[wassy04]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

Has that promotion bonuses thing actually been proved? Obviously, if that's true we'll win our appeal you'd assume and get all the points back. As far as I could tell the bonuses were excluded in 2015, I'm not sure it's been proven that they've been excluded since then, presumably the rules were changed. Again, this will all come out in our appeal you'd imagine.

As for City/Chelsea, these are different cases. I'm not sure what Chelsea have done wrong? The City thing looks bad but it's not like there aren't reasons for the issues. I'm not saying the system isn't stacked against us but I don't see anything illegal that's happened.

I feel like Leeds have a case for compensation given Forest, Everton, Leicester all failed FFP last year but I don't think we do.

[Jean_claude_killy]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

Has that promotion bonuses thing actually been proved? Obviously, if that's true we'll win our appeal you'd assume and get all the points back. As far as I could tell the bonuses were excluded in 2015, I'm not sure it's been proven that they've been excluded since then, presumably the rules were changed. Again, this will all come out in our appeal you'd imagine.

As for City/Chelsea, these are different cases. I'm not sure what Chelsea have done wrong? The City thing looks bad but it's not like there aren't reasons for the issues. I'm not saying the system isn't stacked against us but I don't see anything illegal that's happened.

I feel like Leeds have a case for compensation given Forest, Everton, Leicester all failed FFP last year but I don't think we do.

Fulham overspent by 178m for the last three year cycle with an allowance of 83m and yet there are no charges and no explanation

Leeds might have grounds for compensation against Everton, as one of their cases should have been dealt with last season, but Leicester were relegated and our case was in front of the commission at the very first opportunity, and you cannot backdate penalties to a previous season

[Jean_claude_killy]

wassy04

Wassy I think we have a very good case as from the outside this look very much like the PL is operating a cartel which I believe is illegal?

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

Has that promotion bonuses thing actually been proved? Obviously, if that's true we'll win our appeal you'd assume and get all the points back. As far as I could tell the bonuses were excluded in 2015, I'm not sure it's been proven that they've been excluded since then, presumably the rules were changed. Again, this will all come out in our appeal you'd imagine.

As for City/Chelsea, these are different cases. I'm not sure what Chelsea have done wrong? The City thing looks bad but it's not like there aren't reasons for the issues. I'm not saying the system isn't stacked against us but I don't see anything illegal that's happened.

I feel like Leeds have a case for compensation given Forest, Everton, Leicester all failed FFP last year but I don't think we do.

If the promotion bonus scheme was scrapped as an allowance, how did the EFL ratify our accounts?

[jurgen rober]

It wasn't just the promotion bonuses that the EFL allowed but also the £12m+ for Covid, which lets face it is a realistic figure, not £2.5m as allowed.

[The reds]

It wasn't just the promotion bonuses that the EFL allowed but also the £12m+ for Covid, which lets face it is a realistic figure, not £2.5m as allowed.

Well the EFL didn't disallow them as it was stated in the report. Everton somehow managed to get 220m of Covid Allowance past the PL and still breached, its pretty clear there breach is worse but the deluded Evertonians come up with every excuse under the sun saying stuff like it is down to the Stadium.

[wassy04]

wassy04

What laws are they breaking? The rules may be S**t but they were signed up by all clubs and we therefore agreed to them as part of joining the league.

Laws should be applied equally.

If they are not, there is clearly scope for legal action.

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

Has that promotion bonuses thing actually been proved? Obviously, if that's true we'll win our appeal you'd assume and get all the points back. As far as I could tell the bonuses were excluded in 2015, I'm not sure it's been proven that they've been excluded since then, presumably the rules were changed. Again, this will all come out in our appeal you'd imagine.

As for City/Chelsea, these are different cases. I'm not sure what Chelsea have done wrong? The City thing looks bad but it's not like there aren't reasons for the issues. I'm not saying the system isn't stacked against us but I don't see anything illegal that's happened.

I feel like Leeds have a case for compensation given Forest, Everton, Leicester all failed FFP last year but I don't think we do.

If the promotion bonus scheme was scrapped as an allowance, how did the EFL ratify our accounts?

EFL have different rules to the prem I would imagine.

[northeastred]

Time for the big man to go down man city's route and other big clubs.

Time for Capital Maritime to sponsor us 100m a year ha

[Jean_claude_killy]

Who are they not getting applied equally to though? What "laws of the land" are they breaking?

Well there certainly appears to be one set of rules for City and Chelsea, at one end of the scale.

And athe other end you have the mystifying decisions to allow Bournemouth and Fulham to pay Promotion bonuses.

You cannot have inconsistencies like that and claim the rules are being applied equitably.

Has that promotion bonuses thing actually been proved? Obviously, if that's true we'll win our appeal you'd assume and get all the points back. As far as I could tell the bonuses were excluded in 2015, I'm not sure it's been proven that they've been excluded since then, presumably the rules were changed. Again, this will all come out in our appeal you'd imagine.

As for City/Chelsea, these are different cases. I'm not sure what Chelsea have done wrong? The City thing looks bad but it's not like there aren't reasons for the issues. I'm not saying the system isn't stacked against us but I don't see anything illegal that's happened.

I feel like Leeds have a case for compensation given Forest, Everton, Leicester all failed FFP last year but I don't think we do.

If the promotion bonus scheme was scrapped as an allowance, how did the EFL ratify our accounts?

EFL have different rules to the prem I would imagine.

Be that as it may, but they are the EFLs rules and we adhered to them - how can the PL pass retrospective action against us when it does not come under their perview?

[Jean_claude_killy]

It wasn't just the promotion bonuses that the EFL allowed but also the £12m+ for Covid, which lets face it is a realistic figure, not £2.5m as allowed.

I did a back of the fag packet calculation and we lost over 16m in gate money during Covid, and yet a claim for 12.5m, which was originally passed by the EFL, was rejected by the PL

[DR Forest]

It wasn't just the promotion bonuses that the EFL allowed but also the £12m+ for Covid, which lets face it is a realistic figure, not £2.5m as allowed.

I did a back of the fag packet calculation and we lost over 16m in gate money during Covid, and yet a claim for 12.5m, which was originally passed by the EFL, was rejected by the PL

There’s those moving goalposts again….
If you were in the EFL you can only have £13m a year losses, the PL £35m.
If you were in the EFL you can only have a ‘set fee’ of £2.5m for covid (despite having attendances 25-30k a game) but in the PL fill your boots almost 100 times more.
Oh, and when you go over your measly limit, it’s ‘more’ than the Everton breach so the potential for a high points deduction is greater.

I don’t know about the promotion bonuses but if they were ratified in one league and not in the PL then there’s clearly a case that the transitional arrangements for promoted clubs aren’t equitable.
Jeez, even wassy should be able to see it’s a stacked deck! Lol

In other news, Kieran maguire continues to prove what a self-important publicity seeking pr1ck he is.
Apparently now has said our wages were out of control and we have lost all sympathy for our breach. 
From whom exactly, Kieran? 

Once again selective accounting ignoring the overall facts in the case- ie having a legacy championship squad of wages who weren’t good enough, plus limited time to attract a whole new squad for the PL (after the playoffs) plus not being established and without a core squad to attract new players there’s clearly a salary premium that was required. I’m not justifying some of the waste or coin tosses that came up tails not heads, but FFS this guy boils my piss. The salary total will be much more in line next season once the chaff has been fully shaken out.

I’d love to see someone like Darren Fletcher invite him for a high profile interview and ambush the c**t. Rant over!