NFFC Financial Talk

[Paplane]

Percy coming out with our stance on sales…

Sounds like the club is open to big offers for Murillo and MGW.

[Paplane]

Leicester have been charged by the premier league (not the EFL) for breeching ffp limits. How's that going to work then?

Could it be possible they have to sell players rather than buy this summer and even then start on -6 points?

[The reds]

Is it true that if we give Wood a new contract, we can amortise his contract to 7.5m meaning the losses would then go from 12-17m to 5-10m then we have Mangala whose sale should go through before July for 25m which would represent a profit of around 17m taking us to a profit of around 7-12m. So seemingly wouldn't need to sell MGW or Murillo before June. 

Worrall to Besiktas for 4m may still happen also having played recently and he wants to stay there. That would put us at 11-16m profit. We would be fine.

[Widdow]

Can anyone copy and post the article as behind a pay wall

[wassy04]

Is it true that if we give Wood a new contract, we can amortise his contract to 7.5m meaning the losses would then go from 12-17m to 5-10m then we have Mangala whose sale should go through before July for 25m which would represent a profit of around 17m taking us to a profit of around 7-12m. So seemingly wouldn't need to sell MGW or Murillo before June. 

Worrall to Besiktas for 4m may still happen also having played recently and he wants to stay there. That would put us at 11-16m profit. We would be fine.

I've been wondering that for a while, if you can spread amortisation via a new contract. You'd have thought they'd want to keep him regardless too. Not sure how we'd find out.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Nottingham Forest will demand in excess of £50 million for stars Morgan Gibbs-White and Murillo this summer, and are under no pressure to accept lowball offers.

Forest are to adopt a tough stance over the futures of their key players despite the prospect of having to raise funds before June 30 to stay in line with the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR).

Brennan Johnson was sold to Tottenham Hotspur for a club record £47.5 million last year and Forest will only consider offers well above that fee for Gibbs-White and Murillo.

Gibbs-White was signed for an initial £25 million from Wolves in August 2022, which has already risen to £30 million after instalments.

Murillo has proved a shrewd recruit at just £11 million from Corinthians and, while there is growing interest in the Brazilian defender, Forest believe he could eventually be worth £70 million.

Murillo of Nottingham Forest in action with Antony of Manchester United during the Emirates FA Cup Fifth Round match between Nottingham Forest and Manchester United at City Ground on February 28, 2024 in Nottingham, England
Murillo has performed well since joining Forest from Corinthians CREDIT: Getty Images/Marc Atkins
Forest are in a similar position to a number of other Premier League clubs, including Newcastle, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and Wolves, where significant offers for their players would have to be assessed.

After being deducted four points on Monday for breaching PSR, Forest need to raise around £30 million in profit before July to ensure they avoid future sanctions.

Yet the club are confident of reaching that figure without the sales of their prized assets, with midfielder Orel Mangala set to complete a permanent move to Lyon for a total £25 million.

A loan fee has already been paid and Mangala is on course to become the club’s second biggest sale behind Johnson.

Lyon's Orel Mangala, foreground, and Lens' Jonathan Gradit challenge for the ball during the French League One soccer match between Lyon and Lens at the Groupama stadium, outside Lyon, France, Sunday, March 3, 2024
Orel Mangala is on loan at Lyon, a move that should become permanent at the end of the season CREDIT: AP Photo/Laurent Cipriani
Forest also have a number of players out of contract this summer, including Felipe, Cheikhou Kouyaté, Wayne Hennessey and Harry Arter.

Ola Aina is set to have his contract extended and the club may consider a new deal for Willy Boly. There is an option to buy Arsenal loanee Nuno Tavares.

Loan deals will expire for Giovanni Reyna, Gonzalo Montiel and Divock Origi.

Forest trimmed the squad further in January and also lowered the average age. The plan this summer would be a similar strategy and a net-zero spend.

Their financial position will be ultimately decided by the final nine games, as they bid to avoid relegation.

Nuno Espírito Santo’s team face Crystal Palace on Saturday week with striker Chris Wood expected to be fit.

Wood was taken off late in the 1-1 draw against Luton Town last Saturday to spark fears of another injury lay-off but the New Zealand international is set to train next week.

Taiwo Awoniyi will be missing for a few weeks with an injury linked to his recent groin operation but initial fears that he could be out for the season have been allayed.

Aina, the Nigeria international, is to return to training after coming back injured from the Africa Cup of Nation

[Paplane]

Is it true that if we give Wood a new contract, we can amortise his contract to 7.5m meaning the losses would then go from 12-17m to 5-10m then we have Mangala whose sale should go through before July for 25m which would represent a profit of around 17m taking us to a profit of around 7-12m. So seemingly wouldn't need to sell MGW or Murillo before June. 

Worrall to Besiktas for 4m may still happen also having played recently and he wants to stay there. That would put us at 11-16m profit. We would be fine.

I've been wondering that for a while, if you can spread amortisation via a new contract. You'd have thought they'd want to keep him regardless too. Not sure how we'd find out.

The problem comes towards the end of the contract period where the player's contribution on the pitch isn't equivalent to the high wage being paid and they hang around and drain resources.

[Widdow]

Nottingham Forest will demand in excess of £50 million for stars Morgan Gibbs-White and Murillo this summer, and are under no pressure to accept lowball offers.

Forest are to adopt a tough stance over the futures of their key players despite the prospect of having to raise funds before June 30 to stay in line with the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR).

Brennan Johnson was sold to Tottenham Hotspur for a club record £47.5 million last year and Forest will only consider offers well above that fee for Gibbs-White and Murillo.

Gibbs-White was signed for an initial £25 million from Wolves in August 2022, which has already risen to £30 million after instalments.

Murillo has proved a shrewd recruit at just £11 million from Corinthians and, while there is growing interest in the Brazilian defender, Forest believe he could eventually be worth £70 million.

Murillo of Nottingham Forest in action with Antony of Manchester United during the Emirates FA Cup Fifth Round match between Nottingham Forest and Manchester United at City Ground on February 28, 2024 in Nottingham, England
Murillo has performed well since joining Forest from Corinthians CREDIT: Getty Images/Marc Atkins
Forest are in a similar position to a number of other Premier League clubs, including Newcastle, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and Wolves, where significant offers for their players would have to be assessed.

After being deducted four points on Monday for breaching PSR, Forest need to raise around £30 million in profit before July to ensure they avoid future sanctions.

Yet the club are confident of reaching that figure without the sales of their prized assets, with midfielder Orel Mangala set to complete a permanent move to Lyon for a total £25 million.

A loan fee has already been paid and Mangala is on course to become the club’s second biggest sale behind Johnson.

Lyon's Orel Mangala, foreground, and Lens' Jonathan Gradit challenge for the ball during the French League One soccer match between Lyon and Lens at the Groupama stadium, outside Lyon, France, Sunday, March 3, 2024
Orel Mangala is on loan at Lyon, a move that should become permanent at the end of the season CREDIT: AP Photo/Laurent Cipriani
Forest also have a number of players out of contract this summer, including Felipe, Cheikhou Kouyaté, Wayne Hennessey and Harry Arter.

Ola Aina is set to have his contract extended and the club may consider a new deal for Willy Boly. There is an option to buy Arsenal loanee Nuno Tavares.

Loan deals will expire for Giovanni Reyna, Gonzalo Montiel and Divock Origi.

Forest trimmed the squad further in January and also lowered the average age. The plan this summer would be a similar strategy and a net-zero spend.

Their financial position will be ultimately decided by the final nine games, as they bid to avoid relegation.

Nuno Espírito Santo’s team face Crystal Palace on Saturday week with striker Chris Wood expected to be fit.

Wood was taken off late in the 1-1 draw against Luton Town last Saturday to spark fears of another injury lay-off but the New Zealand international is set to train next week.

Taiwo Awoniyi will be missing for a few weeks with an injury linked to his recent groin operation but initial fears that he could be out for the season have been allayed.

Aina, the Nigeria international, is to return to training after coming back injured from the Africa Cup of Nation

Cheers SM

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Is it true that if we give Wood a new contract, we can amortise his contract to 7.5m meaning the losses would then go from 12-17m to 5-10m then we have Mangala whose sale should go through before July for 25m which would represent a profit of around 17m taking us to a profit of around 7-12m. So seemingly wouldn't need to sell MGW or Murillo before June. 

Worrall to Besiktas for 4m may still happen also having played recently and he wants to stay there. That would put us at 11-16m profit. We would be fine.

I've been wondering that for a while, if you can spread amortisation via a new contract. You'd have thought they'd want to keep him regardless too. Not sure how we'd find out.

The problem comes towards the end of the contract period where the player's contribution on the pitch isn't equivalent to the high wage being paid and they hang around and drain resources.

Very true, Harry, Lyle, Glenn, Daryl, Carl, Zach, Jack, Kelvin circle the name of your choice.

[DeesideRed]

Percy coming out with our stance on sales…

Sounds like the club is open to big offers for Murillo and MGW.

Who is paying for MGW? 

Well behind Gallagher and most have no.10s already who can score. Maddison £50m, had England caps

[The reds]

Percy coming out with our stance on sales…

Sounds like the club is open to big offers for Murillo and MGW.

Who is paying for MGW? 

Well behind Gallagher and most have no.10s already who can score. Maddison £50m, had England caps

Tottenham and West Ham are interested in MGW
Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Atletico, Barca, PSG, Newcastle are interested in Murillo

[Marco Polo]

I think we’ll sell Murillo for £50+ to fund our summer purchases