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Wonder if we will here any snippets tonight?!
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(14-03-2024, 03:37 PM)Liars Bar Wrote: Wonder if we will here any snippets tonight?!
Who knows but if it is announced tomorrow we know who breaks the news first - David Ornstein.
I did see a report earlier that we would not find out for another fortnight so maybe not tomorrow.
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(14-03-2024, 02:38 PM)MacAwoniyi Cheese Wrote: Copied from another forum, this appears to be similar to what Kieran Maguire said on today's PoF podcast regarding what has happened to Leicester and their breach...
I am confident we will escape a points deduction, and my logic is there is now a very recent precedent where Leicester City is concerned.
Leicester, as we have recently found out, have exceeded the £105m PSR limit set in the Premier League; but, as they are no longer a member of the EPL, they cannot be charged by them for breaching.
The EFL then, tried to take over and charge Leicester over the Premier League breach and gave them intended notice to charge them.
Leicester then said, hold on a minute EFL, you can’t get involved as we weren’t a member of the EFL when the breach took place, we were a Premier League member!!
This then went to a commission who, after representation by a certain Nick De Marco KC, sided with Leicester saying that, yes Leicester is immune from charges from the EFL as they were not a member when the breaches took place.
This has an obvious benefit to us. Using precedent, Forest can defend that the two seasons in the Championship should be discounted from the Premier League PSR calcs, and we have two further seasons to begin our 3-year rolling PSR formula, OR places us on the same 3-year rolling used by the Premier League. There cannot be a ‘pick-a-mix’ of EFL and EPL rules.
Makes sense, let's hope he has found a loophole.
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(14-03-2024, 03:41 PM)The reds Wrote: (14-03-2024, 03:37 PM)Liars Bar Wrote: Wonder if we will here any snippets tonight?!
Who knows but if it is announced tomorrow we know who breaks the news first - David Ornstein.
I did see a report earlier that we would not find out for another fortnight so maybe not tomorrow.
Apparently its Premier league rules that we have to receive a verdict within a week of the hearing so should be by close of business tomorrow.
First the points and then the pints….
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(14-03-2024, 04:21 PM)Simon Wrote: (14-03-2024, 03:41 PM)The reds Wrote: (14-03-2024, 03:37 PM)Liars Bar Wrote: Wonder if we will here any snippets tonight?!
Who knows but if it is announced tomorrow we know who breaks the news first - David Ornstein.
I did see a report earlier that we would not find out for another fortnight so maybe not tomorrow.
Apparently its Premier league rules that we have to receive a verdict within a week of the hearing so should be by close of business tomorrow.
Hopefully then. I reckon we get 2/3pts deducted or suspended - The PL do not want us or Everton to appeal. But I think Forest and Everton will sue the PL
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(14-03-2024, 04:21 PM)Simon Wrote: (14-03-2024, 03:41 PM)The reds Wrote: (14-03-2024, 03:37 PM)Liars Bar Wrote: Wonder if we will here any snippets tonight?!
Who knows but if it is announced tomorrow we know who breaks the news first - David Ornstein.
I did see a report earlier that we would not find out for another fortnight so maybe not tomorrow.
Apparently its Premier league rules that we have to receive a verdict within a week of the hearing so should be by close of business tomorrow.
The result of the commission needs to be communicated 7 days after the hearing. The rub is that nowhere does it state who it has to be communicated to. This, for example may be communicated to the Premier League, who may sit on it for a week!
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Athletic says Monday at the latest
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(14-03-2024, 05:34 PM)northeastred Wrote: Athletic says Monday at the latest
Not sure when I prefer it tomorrow or Monday.
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(14-03-2024, 05:35 PM)The reds Wrote: (14-03-2024, 05:34 PM)northeastred Wrote: Athletic says Monday at the latest
Not sure when I prefer it tomorrow or Monday.
Before the Luton match for me, definitely. Delaying it hurts us IMO.
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(14-03-2024, 06:05 PM)stirred Wrote: (14-03-2024, 05:35 PM)The reds Wrote: (14-03-2024, 05:34 PM)northeastred Wrote: Athletic says Monday at the latest
Not sure when I prefer it tomorrow or Monday.
Before the Luton match for me, definitely. Delaying it hurts us IMO.
If we assume Luton won't know, are we better them playing with uncertainty, or is it better they play us knowing what the situation is? I say we don't tell them and force them to try to win the game outright.
But saying that, they are themsleves a member of the premier league so all clubs might be informed at the same time as us.
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If we do get a positive outcome it would be good for the club and players to know before the Luton game to hopefully relieve some pressure and give the whole club a boost. On others knowing, it could dampen spirits of Luton, Sheff Utd and Burnle, especially Luton coming on the back of last nights result, so wouldn’t be averse to them knowing. Of course the opposite could be the case if we get a negative outcome.
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(14-03-2024, 02:38 PM)MacAwoniyi Cheese Wrote: Copied from another forum, this appears to be similar to what Kieran Maguire said on today's PoF podcast regarding what has happened to Leicester and their breach...
I am confident we will escape a points deduction, and my logic is there is now a very recent precedent where Leicester City is concerned.
Leicester, as we have recently found out, have exceeded the £105m PSR limit set in the Premier League; but, as they are no longer a member of the EPL, they cannot be charged by them for breaching.
The EFL then, tried to take over and charge Leicester over the Premier League breach and gave them intended notice to charge them.
Leicester then said, hold on a minute EFL, you can’t get involved as we weren’t a member of the EFL when the breach took place, we were a Premier League member!!
This then went to a commission who, after representation by a certain Nick De Marco KC, sided with Leicester saying that, yes Leicester is immune from charges from the EFL as they were not a member when the breaches took place.
This has an obvious benefit to us. Using precedent, Forest can defend that the two seasons in the Championship should be discounted from the Premier League PSR calcs, and we have two further seasons to begin our 3-year rolling PSR formula, OR places us on the same 3-year rolling used by the Premier League. There cannot be a ‘pick-a-mix’ of EFL and EPL rules.
Is it right to assume we didn’t breach any of the EFL rules.
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