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I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.
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(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

That is exactly what I thought would happen if we have been charged, but how have you heard this, No Journalists have said anything at all?
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(14-01-2024, 02:49 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

That is exactly what I thought would happen if we have been charged, but how have you heard this, No Journalists have said anything at all?

If we are charged though isn't it an automatic 6 point deduction no matter what?

I can live with a transfer ban for a window or two and a suspended points deduction.
Panic on the streets of Croydon, Derby, Sheffield, Leicestershire.
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(14-01-2024, 02:53 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:49 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

That is exactly what I thought would happen if we have been charged, but how have you heard this, No Journalists have said anything at all?

If we are charged though isn't it an automatic 6 point deduction no matter what?

I can live with a transfer ban for a window or two and a suspended points deduction.

No there isn’t any specific punishment, there are some saying PL follow the AD HOC model which was 6pts plus 1pt for every 5m over but PL don’t follow that model.
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I know a few people in football. Nuno being made manager - I was told the day after Fulham. Not all snippets turn out to be true. This is from a sports journalist.
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(14-01-2024, 11:46 AM)Username Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:43 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:40 AM)Username Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:09 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: So you think it would be right to attack the owner?

Is that what you are saying?

Yes mate, absolutely.

What a strange comment.

Why would anyone want to attack an owner who has committed nigh on half a billion pounds into the football club?

What a strange world we live in.

I didn’t expect any different response, and take it whichever way you want to turn it. 

However we’ve spent 23 years trying to get back to the top flight and if those actions were to relegate us after the cost investment in getting us there then it would rank as the most stupid ownership decision in living history.

A bit much hyperbole and inflammatory language used in some comments in my opinion. Criticising and at least questioning some of the owners decisions is fair enough should it come to it. “Attacks” protests etc are definitely not OK.

Can I pick you up on this bit User?
Flip the argument. Had our owner decided to spend very little and recoup some of his investment last season and we had been relegated would that have been the stupidest ownership decision in living history  instead? Plenty clubs have done that.
Fulham notably spent over £100m and got themselves relegated a few seasons ago. Was that stupid too?
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(14-01-2024, 02:59 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I know a few people in football. Nuno being made manager - I was told the day after Fulham. Not all snippets turn out to be true. This is from a sports journalist.

Fair enough, Clubs haven’t been told anything yet, they find out tomorrow to so hopefully we are fine
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(14-01-2024, 03:00 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:46 AM)Username Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:43 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:40 AM)Username Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 11:09 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: So you think it would be right to attack the owner?

Is that what you are saying?

Yes mate, absolutely.

What a strange comment.

Why would anyone want to attack an owner who has committed nigh on half a billion pounds into the football club?

What a strange world we live in.

I didn’t expect any different response, and take it whichever way you want to turn it. 

However we’ve spent 23 years trying to get back to the top flight and if those actions were to relegate us after the cost investment in getting us there then it would rank as the most stupid ownership decision in living history.

A bit much hyperbole and inflammatory language used in some comments in my opinion. Criticising and at least questioning some of the owners decisions is fair enough should it come to it. “Attacks” protests etc are definitely not OK.

Can I pick you up on this bit User?
Flip the argument. Had our owner decided to spend very little and recoup some of his investment last season and we had been relegated would that have been the stupidest ownership decision in living history  instead? Plenty clubs have done that.
Fulham notably spent over £100m and got themselves relegated a few seasons ago. Was that stupid too?

Burnley spent over 100m to and there likely to go down.
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(14-01-2024, 02:57 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:53 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:49 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

That is exactly what I thought would happen if we have been charged, but how have you heard this, No Journalists have said anything at all?

If we are charged though isn't it an automatic 6 point deduction no matter what?

I can live with a transfer ban for a window or two and a suspended points deduction.

No there isn’t any specific punishment, there are some saying PL follow the AD HOC model which was 6pts plus 1pt for every 5m over but PL don’t follow that model.

I see thanks for clearing that up.
Panic on the streets of Croydon, Derby, Sheffield, Leicestershire.
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(14-01-2024, 02:57 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:53 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:49 PM)The reds Wrote:
(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

That is exactly what I thought would happen if we have been charged, but how have you heard this, No Journalists have said anything at all?

If we are charged though isn't it an automatic 6 point deduction no matter what?

I can live with a transfer ban for a window or two and a suspended points deduction.

No there isn’t any specific punishment, there are some saying PL follow the AD HOC model which was 6pts plus 1pt for every 5m over but PL don’t follow that model.

This is basically what I was told that we'd get a flat -6
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(14-01-2024, 02:44 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I’m hearing we have indeed been charged but unlikely to be points deduction but a strict business plan due to mitigating factors (promotion, market forces and timescales of rule changes) and a concrete willingness to adhere to the plan as demonstrated in subsequent transfer windows.

I think someone is not being entirely honest with you, Ozzy.

We only find out if we are being charged tomorrow; if so, an independent tribunal will decide our fate, and that will be in April.
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Everton had be warned and had a plan to follow but they didn't and that's when they got hit hard. I'm hoping we get the same opportunity to put things right.

It sounds like we have spoken to and kept the Premier league up to date of where we are.
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