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(23-04-2023, 02:33 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (23-04-2023, 02:16 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (23-04-2023, 12:40 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Come off it, Villa were massively under achieving with Gerrard, they have twice our squad.
So who would you have got then?
Emery wouldn’t have come here regardless.
Benitez no thanks
Dyche I thought was a good idea but he has hardly transformed Everton
Someone like Sampaoli? Small chance it would have worked, far bigger chance it would have been a disaster then the knives would have been properly out for EM in sacking a hugely popular manager without giving him a chance.
EM made a brave but correct decision.
Have you tried telling him that?
The crowd tell him every game.
And where as that took us?
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(23-04-2023, 03:00 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (23-04-2023, 02:56 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: They would certainly have told him every game had he appointed Benitez.
But he didn't and he was never going to.
Insert name of manager of your choice then.
Had the next person failed, most likely someone foreign with no connection to the club or PL experience, there would have been a lot of Marinakis Out stuff going on. Doubt you would have liked that.
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(23-04-2023, 03:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (23-04-2023, 03:00 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (23-04-2023, 02:56 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: They would certainly have told him every game had he appointed Benitez.
But he didn't and he was never going to.
Insert name of manager of your choice then.
Had the next person failed, most likely someone foreign with no connection to the club or PL experience, there would have been a lot of Marinakis Out stuff going on. Doubt you would have liked that. Don't you think that fans don't appreciate what Marinakis has done for this club. He has been more than generous and a great benefactor and undoubtably the club would have gone done the toilet without him. im not thinking the Marinakis out crowd would be taken to seriously if in fact it exists at all.
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I hope the decision has been made to keep cooper for next year. Come back up and we will be better set for another go at prem football…
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Have been told Paul Hart was down at the training ground last week. Interesting if true.
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(23-04-2023, 12:13 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Same level of player- come off it! Villa also struggled to stay up first season too and won 4/6 of their last games to do it.
I thought that, put Martinez, Mings, Douglas Luiz Buendia, possibly McGinn Ramsey and Watkins in our current side and it's tonnes better. Obviously I'd add Matty Cash to that. But all the others started yesterday v Brentford.
To think our current available players are same level is bordering on delusional. Not one of our current Midfield gets in their team. The Villa manager is good but unless he can fix injuries overnight I certainly don't see how we'd be safe by now.
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(23-04-2023, 04:34 PM)EricTheCat Wrote: Have been told Paul Hart was down at the training ground last week. Interesting if true.
If true, one of the best Academy managers in the Country. Hugely respected, much like Gary Brazil...
That said, if it ain't broke....
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(23-04-2023, 03:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (23-04-2023, 03:00 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (23-04-2023, 02:56 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: They would certainly have told him every game had he appointed Benitez.
But he didn't and he was never going to.
Insert name of manager of your choice then.
Had the next person failed, most likely someone foreign with no connection to the club or PL experience, there would have been a lot of Marinakis Out stuff going on. Doubt you would have liked that.
It doesn't really matter what I like.
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Sorry that was clumsy language by me. What I meant is that none of us want to go back to the days of protests against the owner. We have had that before and it’s downright embarrassing and depressing.
Would it happen? It would have done I reckon had Hughton taken us down to L1.
Florida, yes I know what you mean people appreciate the investment Marinakis has made but we live in an entitled generation ( getting philosophical now), fans demand winning and instant gratification. FFS Liverpool fan saying I quote “ we have the worst owners in football” after they ruled out a bid for Bellingham.
My point is Marinakis keeping the fanbase onside is important.
Does he care what we think Sniffer? No idea but I do know he cares what Olympiacos fans (Gate 7 ) think. That in my opinion is a sign of a good owner and one who cares.
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Yes SM he does care what we think.
My original point which sparked this debate is that I believe EM now regrets not changing coach after losing at Leicester, it's not so much about the present.
Sad to say that it currently looks like Steve is taken us down realistically speaking, although it's far from over but current form etc suggests that the tide is against us.
Would a different coach after Leicester have kept us up and have us safe now? The truth is that we will never know the answer to that question, we can only guess and assume what might have been and who it might have been.
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(24-04-2023, 09:09 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Yes SM he does care what we think.
My original point which sparked this debate is that I believe EM now regrets not changing coach after losing at Leicester, it's not so much about the present.
Sad to say that it currently looks like Steve is taken us down realistically speaking, although it's far from over but current form etc suggests that the tide is against us.
Would a different coach after Leicester have kept us up and have us safe now? The truth is that we will never know the answer to that question, we can only guess and assume what might have been and who it might have been.
It worked for palace. Working for lester. Might work for Everton, guess we will never know, but agree Steve has taken us down, while it has took to 6 games to go to fire some fight into them I'll never know, will be another squad rebuild in the summer,
I bet it's the last time evangelos listens to fans though and will just do what is right for the club and himself next time
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(24-04-2023, 09:25 AM)northeastred Wrote: (24-04-2023, 09:09 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Yes SM he does care what we think.
My original point which sparked this debate is that I believe EM now regrets not changing coach after losing at Leicester, it's not so much about the present.
Sad to say that it currently looks like Steve is taken us down realistically speaking, although it's far from over but current form etc suggests that the tide is against us.
Would a different coach after Leicester have kept us up and have us safe now? The truth is that we will never know the answer to that question, we can only guess and assume what might have been and who it might have been.
It worked for palace. Working for lester. Might work for Everton, guess we will never know, but agree Steve has taken us down, while it has took to 6 games to go to fire some fight into them I'll never know, will be another squad rebuild in the summer,
I bet it's the last time evangelos listens to fans though and will just do what is right for the club and himself next time
Leicester lost 3 games in a row after sacking Rodgers before a scrappy win vs Wolves. How is that working?
Palace beat the bottom three up, which they would likely have done with Viera too.
Everton are in the same position as when Dyche took over and that's replacing Lampard, who's not exactly the highest rated manager
Leeds, Wolves, Southampton also are the same or worse than before the changed manager.
Don't forget Chelsea and Spurs too looking terrible. Very selective comments.
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