Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

[stefanduma]

Brighton and Brentford follow the same model, data and more data.

[Shawoddyred]

Potter is a fraud- crap at Swansea and outperformed by cooper, joined a very good set up at Brighton - did Ok but next manger getting loads more out of the squad- went to Chelsea and failed more than cooper had here.

Completely agree.

And I think Cooper did a seriously good job last year....but, similar to Potter at Brighton, sometimes things just line up for people. Last year, he got our squad playing together really well - we knew we were pushing it and we had this fantastic mentality that scraped us a lot of wins. However, maybe the squad was perfect for Coops, perhaps the lack of his own signings was actually a blessing and he is crap in the transfer market, maybe the loan players were just that much better than the majority of the Championship?!?! And no, I'm not slagging him off, he was a massive part of it, as well as galvanising the support so he fully deserves a lot of praise. 

My main point is, if he does move on today/tomorrow, can we not lambast the owners! I think they're in a really tricky situation and I think I would make the decision to part ways myself. I'd even say to Coops...go and learn more, work out how to be better and hopefully we can work again in the future as I do think he has a very bright future in the game and clearly a decent bloke. He was shown a huge amount of loyalty when he got a new contract when under pressure in the Autumn.....please don't forget that either! He owes the owners and club for that!

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

Yes. He did very well there, got them promoted and established in the Premier League.

I am very sorry if I am hinting that another club might possibly be run better than NFFC.

[PsychoStooge]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

Yes. He did very well there, got them promoted and established in the Premier League.

I am very sorry if I am hinting that another club might possibly be run better than NFFC. 

There's no possibly about it, they're far better run than us and most other teams for that matter.

[Shawoddyred]

Sometimes it's just about a change. They might not be as good a manager in a lot of people's minds but it could freshen everything up

Or it could have no impact or make us worse. Statistically speaking that is more likely but no-one seems to want to hear that.

I completely understand and agree. But to do nothing would be even more criminal, I think. That is based on our performances and results and looking at the upcoming fixtures. Coops is showing no signs of being able to change things up again. He did after Leicester when we went on that really good run, but he needs to again, 3 matches ago!! Time's potentially up or we just sleepwalk into relegation. It's not fair, maybe not even fully logical and unfortunately we are not able to run the scenario in 2 parallel universes to see what works best, but in my opinion, Coops is not going to get us to the required point at the end of the season.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Brighton and Brentford follow the same model, data and more data.

Not quite. Brighton have and academy and promote youth. Brentford buy it in and sell it on.

[wassy04]

Potter is a fraud- crap at Swansea and outperformed by cooper, joined a very good set up at Brighton - did Ok but next manger getting loads more out of the squad- went to Chelsea and failed more than cooper had here.

Completely agree.

And I think Cooper did a seriously good job last year....but, similar to Potter at Brighton, sometimes things just line up for people. Last year, he got our squad playing together really well - we knew we were pushing it and we had this fantastic mentality that scraped us a lot of wins. However, maybe the squad was perfect for Coops, perhaps the lack of his own signings was actually a blessing and he is crap in the transfer market, maybe the loan players were just that much better than the majority of the Championship?!?! And no, I'm not slagging him off, he was a massive part of it, as well as galvanising the support so he fully deserves a lot of praise. 

My main point is, if he does move on today/tomorrow, can we not lambast the owners! I think they're in a really tricky situation and I think I would make the decision to part ways myself. I'd even say to Coops...go and learn more, work out how to be better and hopefully we can work again in the future as I do think he has a very bright future in the game and clearly a decent bloke. He was shown a huge amount of loyalty when he got a new contract when under pressure in the Autumn.....please don't forget that either! He owes the owners and club for that!

So Cooper takes all the blame and the owners/players get off free? How is that fair at all? He owes them nothing, he took the club up and barely had a team at that point. Not sacking him was a good move but 100% the right move, sacking would've been ridiculous. Repeatedly sacking managers gets you nowhere unless you have a much bigger budget than every other team around you which we don't. Sacking good managers is even more stupid. If Cooper is gone today then who else is left to blame...

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

Yes. He did very well there, got them promoted and established in the Premier League.

I am very sorry if I am hinting that another club might possibly be run better than NFFC. 

There's no possibly about it, they're far better run than us and most other teams for that matter.

Absolutely which is why I said that is what Forest should be aspiring to.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

Yes. He did very well there, got them promoted and established in the Premier League.

I am very sorry if I am hinting that another club might possibly be run better than NFFC.

What is that supposed to mean?

No need to have a pop.

Some mentioned how great Brighton are so I mentioned that there model was to employ Chris Hughton for 5 years.

Well we tried that didn't we and the fans booted him out after a year.

[wassy04]

Sometimes it's just about a change. They might not be as good a manager in a lot of people's minds but it could freshen everything up

Or it could have no impact or make us worse. Statistically speaking that is more likely but no-one seems to want to hear that.

I completely understand and agree. But to do nothing would be even more criminal, I think. That is based on our performances and results and looking at the upcoming fixtures. Coops is showing no signs of being able to change things up again. He did after Leicester when we went on that really good run, but he needs to again, 3 matches ago!! Time's potentially up or we just sleepwalk into relegation. It's not fair, maybe not even fully logical and unfortunately we are not able to run the scenario in 2 parallel universes to see what works best, but in my opinion, Coops is not going to get us to the required point at the end of the season.

I don't think we'll stay up under Cooper, I also don't think we'll stay up under any manager. I can say for a fact the atmosphere will be worse with Cooper gone.

[wassy04]

Is this the same Brighton who had Chris Hughton as manager for 5 years?

The same Chris Hughton when employed by Forest everyone said he is absolutely useless.

Yes. He did very well there, got them promoted and established in the Premier League.

I am very sorry if I am hinting that another club might possibly be run better than NFFC.

What is that supposed to mean?

No need to have a pop.

Some mentioned how great Brighton are so I mentioned that there model was to employ Chris Hughton for 5 years.

Well we tried that didn't we and the fans booted him out after a year.

So basically what you're saying is fans don't know what they're talking about, I agree!