Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager

[Marinakis Red]

Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

The point he is making he should be getting a damn site more out of the squad he has had and got now.

[wassy04]

We can afford sackings, there not included in ffp, Plymouth sacked 2 when they were in administration, there's a article somewhere if you Google it, only reason I can think he's not been sacked is the lack of signings, Johnson played 10 mins last weekend, you would think he would of started last night? I think he might be closer to a sale than we think

They are included in FFP that article (if it says that) is bollocks. In accounting terms we would have to pay out the remainder of the staff sacked contracts (or an agreed compromise).

In this case though actually it wouldn't make much difference as CH only has a year left (?) so we owe his wages as part of that regardless.

[wassy04]

Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

I hear what you are saying SA and I agree but I fear that the vocal part of our supporters have invested too much into the "Hughton out" campaign to ever reconsider. Even if Hughton would win the next 5 games he would still be attacked and abused if we lost game number 6. I really don't see a way back. The atmosphere inside the WFCG seems quite hostile. It's almost like some people believe CH is losing on purpose. Abusive behavior is accepted and is spreading. I have to admit that I'm currently embarrassed to be a Forest fan and that is not because of results or the way we play but because of the "supporters" that we have and unfortunately those are a bit more difficult to get rid of then a manager.

Win all our remaining games?  :D

[GaribaldiRED]

Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

I hear what you are saying SA and I agree but I fear that the vocal part of our supporters have invested too much into the "Hughton out" campaign to ever reconsider. Even if Hughton would win the next 5 games he would still be attacked and abused if we lost game number 6. I really don't see a way back. The atmosphere inside the WFCG seems quite hostile. It's almost like some people believe CH is losing on purpose. Abusive behavior is accepted and is spreading. I have to admit that I'm currently embarrassed to be a Forest fan and that is not because of results or the way we play but because of the "supporters" that we have and unfortunately those are a bit more difficult to get rid of then a manager.

Win all our remaining games?  :D

:D

[Strawberry Avenger]

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/foo...on-5832502

SA.

[Widdow]

Stat wise the worst manager ever!

[Strawberry Avenger]

Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen. Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

[Marinakis Red]

Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

Knocker, Krov' and Garner or Murray. None of those were awful. The team was mediocre at best. That's down to the lack of pre-season (Hughton upped the volume of training to compensate) and poor recruitment. He's been brought in after the previous manager brought in 14 players (sounds like someone at the club had a hissy fit. The last time Forest brought in that many or 10 players was when Aitor lost his bop after the Preston game.)

All loans.  (No PERMANENT outfield(!) signings in his year here.  Disgraceful.  Shabby treatment.)

No young target man to score the goals only the injured and ageing legs of Grabban and the ill-suited Lyle.

But this isn't news.  Sabri didn't get his quality striker either in that January window.

SA.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

All loans.  (No PERMANENT outfield(!) signings in his year here.  Disgraceful.  Shabby treatment.)

No young target man to score the goals only the injured and ageing legs of Grabban and the ill-suited Lyle.

But this isn't news.  Sabri didn't get his quality striker either in that January window.

SA.

Except this time last year you were constantly waxing lyrical about how brilliant our transfer business had been last summer and how brilliant the squad was and that Hughton would certainly take us up with it.

I feel sorry for CH this season and genuinely dont think anyone could do better right now but I didnt see enough of an improvement with what he had last year to convince me there are great things to come with him.

[ozzyten10]

Garner is a very good player. A collymore comes along once in a blue moon.

[SSM]

Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

All loans.  (No PERMANENT outfield(!) signings in his year here.  Disgraceful.  Shabby treatment.)

No young target man to score the goals only the injured and ageing legs of Grabban and the ill-suited Lyle.

But this isn't news.  Sabri didn't get his quality striker either in that January window.

SA.

Murray was permanent.

We paid 7 figures to loan Knockaert and Christie.

he tried to sign Dan Gosling on a multiyear deal.

If we give this man who he wants, it will set us back another 5 years.

Thank god Dane won't do it.