Are We Going Down?

[wassy04]

I'm glad we have some time to rebuild after another exhausting three days.

I think we've got a really good chance to win on Friday and potentially then earn the right to rotate after the Villa game. 7 unbeaten in all competitions and not lost since that Brighton game in the league.

Draws with Man City (champions elect away), Fulham, Villa (3rd) and wins vs Spurs and Burnley. We should be confident really.

Sunderland are beatable and Chelsea/Newcastle are on dreadful form. Really hope we don’t need anything from the last two though.

Everyone who plays Sunderland thinks they are beatable.

Yeah they're an average team, similar to Fulham, Palace, Everton etc. It will be a tight game either way but definitely winnable. They are 11th, -4 GD, they have had a better season than us but not sure they're a better team than we are at this moment.

The point I was (poorly) making was that every team who plays them thinks they can do them, but the reality often turns out to be much different. Similar to us last season in a way. They don't have stellar names but do have good players, a good team ethic, they work hard for each other and have a noisy crowd behind them. They're formidable.

I got what you meant and I agree to a point, I think this probably applied more earlier in the year before people realised they were actually good.

My point was not too overrate them either, they are still 11th in the league with a negative GD, a midtable team which is an impressive achievement (and one we would've 100% taken!). However, similar to the likes of Fulham etc they are not world beaters just well organised and disciplined. I am much more hopeful of beating them than Chelsea or Man Utd or even Bournemouth atm! They are on worryingly good form, I hope they have tailed off by then if we need it.

[Username]

I think Sunderland can go 6th if they win on Friday?

[The reds]

I think Sunderland can go 6th if they win on Friday?

Brighton v Chelsea tomorrow, Also Bournemouth v Leeds. So it's unlikely.

[Username]

Didn’t realise that there were any midweek games!

[BadDog]

We are now 2nd in the form table over the last 5 with 10 scored and 4 conceded.

No one has scored more than us over the last 5 games!

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

We are now 2nd in the form table over the last 5 with 10 scored and 4 conceded.

No one has scored more than us over the last 5 games!

Unbelievable.

Please say that again BD but a bit louder.

[Sausage Roll]

There's an article on the BBC about the relegation battle today. In the last nine seasons our current tally of 36 points was enough to stay up. It'd be nice if it was this season too but I can't see it.

[Mcforest]

No chance. 36 is enough. This could be a record breaking season requirement if spurs beat wolves at the weekend.

[Fumanchew]

I know it’s not an exact science but using the last 5 games as an indicator we have 1.8 ppg spurs have 0.4 ppg

If we kept on at our current rate spurs would have to get 15 points from their last 5 games so win them all

Let’s say we lose Friday and then look at our last 5 including that, we’d be on 1.6 ppg. They’d still have to win all 5 games but let’s say they do beat wolves the next day. It moves them up to 1.25 ppg and if that carries on they’d still be 3 points behind us at the end of the season.

West Ham on the other hand have 1.6 ppg carrying on like that would net them another 8 points, spurs would have to get 11 points from the remaining games 3 wins and 2 draws but if they beat wolves and West Ham lose to Everton they’d be on the same 1.25 ppg and if that were to carry on West Ham would be down. So it’s far more important for spurs (of course) to just concentrate on bettering West Ham’s next 5 fixtures. I’m just not sure apart from the wolves game where points happen for the both of them currently

[Sausage Roll]

If Spurs don't beat Wolves I think they're cooked.

We could really pile the pressure on with a win on Friday night.

[Mcforest]

Honestly looking at our run in we have by far the hardest set of games. And even though we have the points we are in a worse position than west ham and spurs.

I would be more comfortable if the 5 points gap was between us and west ham rather than spurs, who out of the three have the most likely points score-able games.

Five remaining games and I expect
Forest to get 3 points from 3 draws. I don't see an out and out win
West ham could be 4 draws or 3 draws and Leeds on the beach last game of season gifting WH the win for 6 points.
Spurs two wins thanks to Wolves and a switched off Leeds and two draws most likely Everton and Chelsea.
All teams on 39 and goal difference comes into play.

[Sausage Roll]

So many variables. Chelsea and Newcastle (and to a lesser degree Man U) are total basket-cases this season and anything could happen. It's not inconceivable to think we could turn them both over - or vice versa.