(04-08-2023, 08:49 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:42 AM)nffc93 Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:19 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Some just want him to fail.

Fact.

Nonsense. Nobody wants him to fail.

They do which is why they jump on him at every little tiny opportunity that arises.

Totally bizarre behaviour.

(04-08-2023, 08:55 AM)wassy04 Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:49 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:42 AM)nffc93 Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:19 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Some just want him to fail.

Fact.

Nonsense. Nobody wants him to fail.

They do which is why they jump on him at every little tiny opportunity that arises.

Totally bizarre behaviour.

Why would any Forest fan want him to fail? Surely that would mean we'd fail! Regardless of whether you like his methods, I don't see why anyone would want him to fail.

(04-08-2023, 08:10 AM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 07:21 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Whatever but it will come to nothing 100% guaranteed.

But the point we're making is it shouldn't have been anything in the first place, surely that's fair?

Also as for being an "EM basher" I've always made my position clear and again I think I've been fair, EM is generous with his money which is great but it's also been put in the wrong hands/places at times throughout his ownership and a hell of a lot of it has been wasted. I also think that sometimes his ambition, while great in some aspects, is his biggest weakness in others and that either he or the people who advise him struggle to see a long term picture, it's all instant gratification, there's talks that he admires and wants Forest to be the way Brighton are but that will require a hell of a lot of patience and he isn't known for that is he? I've never not praised him when I think he's got something right but when I think he's not doing as well as he can/should be I'll criticise it too and if we aren't paying debts on time (even if they'll get paid eventually) it deserves criticism in my opinion.

(04-08-2023, 11:19 AM)Fumanchew Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:10 AM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 07:21 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Whatever but it will come to nothing 100% guaranteed.

But the point we're making is it shouldn't have been anything in the first place, surely that's fair?

Also as for being an "EM basher" I've always made my position clear and again I think I've been fair, EM is generous with his money which is great but it's also been put in the wrong hands/places at times throughout his ownership and a hell of a lot of it has been wasted. I also think that sometimes his ambition, while great in some aspects, is his biggest weakness in others and that either he or the people who advise him struggle to see a long term picture, it's all instant gratification, there's talks that he admires and wants Forest to be the way Brighton are but that will require a hell of a lot of patience and he isn't known for that is he? I've never not praised him when I think he's got something right but when I think he's not doing as well as he can/should be I'll criticise it too and if we aren't paying debts on time (even if they'll get paid eventually) it deserves criticism in my opinion.

So is this all untrue sniff? Surely you should give this reply to you the time of day and reply to it as it replied to you?

(04-08-2023, 11:29 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 11:19 AM)Fumanchew Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:10 AM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 07:21 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Whatever but it will come to nothing 100% guaranteed.

But the point we're making is it shouldn't have been anything in the first place, surely that's fair?

Also as for being an "EM basher" I've always made my position clear and again I think I've been fair, EM is generous with his money which is great but it's also been put in the wrong hands/places at times throughout his ownership and a hell of a lot of it has been wasted. I also think that sometimes his ambition, while great in some aspects, is his biggest weakness in others and that either he or the people who advise him struggle to see a long term picture, it's all instant gratification, there's talks that he admires and wants Forest to be the way Brighton are but that will require a hell of a lot of patience and he isn't known for that is he? I've never not praised him when I think he's got something right but when I think he's not doing as well as he can/should be I'll criticise it too and if we aren't paying debts on time (even if they'll get paid eventually) it deserves criticism in my opinion.

So is this all untrue sniff? Surely you should give this reply to you the time of day and reply to it as it replied to you?

I have nothing to say mate.

I let EM's achievements speak for themselves.

In a nutshell he saved the club from extinction, got us on a good financial footing, got us to the Premier League and kept us in the Premier League. That is the big picture and it's the picture I prefer to look at. Nobody is perfect and nothing is perfect but if some want to nitpick and always try to find an imperfection that is their choice.

Back to Financial talk.

(04-08-2023, 03:24 PM)Fumanchew Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 11:29 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 11:19 AM)Fumanchew Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 08:10 AM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 07:21 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Whatever but it will come to nothing 100% guaranteed.

But the point we're making is it shouldn't have been anything in the first place, surely that's fair?

Also as for being an "EM basher" I've always made my position clear and again I think I've been fair, EM is generous with his money which is great but it's also been put in the wrong hands/places at times throughout his ownership and a hell of a lot of it has been wasted. I also think that sometimes his ambition, while great in some aspects, is his biggest weakness in others and that either he or the people who advise him struggle to see a long term picture, it's all instant gratification, there's talks that he admires and wants Forest to be the way Brighton are but that will require a hell of a lot of patience and he isn't known for that is he? I've never not praised him when I think he's got something right but when I think he's not doing as well as he can/should be I'll criticise it too and if we aren't paying debts on time (even if they'll get paid eventually) it deserves criticism in my opinion.

So is this all untrue sniff? Surely you should give this reply to you the time of day and reply to it as it replied to you?

I have nothing to say mate.

I let EM's achievements speak for themselves.

In a nutshell he saved the club from extinction, got us on a good financial footing, got us to the Premier League and kept us in the Premier League. That is the big picture and it's the picture I prefer to look at. Nobody is perfect and nothing is perfect but if some want to nitpick and always try to find an imperfection that is their choice.

Back to Financial talk.

But that’s like ignoring your neighbours house is on fire Cus yours is fine. Yes all the things are good, great etc but surely as stated in the original post if we’re that good and great as a club we shouldn’t be late on payments and making non payments to players agents or whoever. Because others will start to look at us differently then you look at us and the owners

(04-08-2023, 06:36 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: I thought this was a none story, I've never had my money paid 3 weeks early by anyone. Why would forest pay in advance of the end of August when the payments are due?