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RE: NFFC Financial Talk - wassy04 - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 03:18 PM)JC21 Wrote: Can I, purely as a fan of Forest, give them £100m?
(if I had it of course)
Yes but it wouldn’t help with FFP
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 03:27 PM)Widdow Wrote:(06-08-2019, 10:07 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(26-07-2019, 10:25 PM)BadDog Wrote: This is a cash injection, we can buy our own shares if we want... tells me signings are coming!
That is how I see it too BD.
Lets hope we are right.
So many loop holes to get around FFP though it seems.
Well nothing really came of the cash injection with regards to spending transfer fees, but sure it was just helping with the running costs.
Decent size fees were paid for Sow, Jenkinson, Samba and Chema?
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Jean_claude_killy - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 03:18 PM)JC21 Wrote: Can I, purely as a fan of Forest, give them £100m?
(if I had it of course)
I am fairly sure there would be tax implications if there was no return for your investment.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Kranky - 15-08-2019
Wonder how much we got for Gueddy
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Widdow - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 03:30 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(15-08-2019, 03:27 PM)Widdow Wrote:(06-08-2019, 10:07 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(26-07-2019, 10:25 PM)BadDog Wrote: This is a cash injection, we can buy our own shares if we want... tells me signings are coming!
That is how I see it too BD.
Lets hope we are right.
So many loop holes to get around FFP though it seems.
Well nothing really came of the cash injection with regards to spending transfer fees, but sure it was just helping with the running costs.
Decent size fees were paid for Sow, Jenkinson, Samba and Chema?
All undisclosed but imagine would’ve been covered by the outgoing transfer fees received this summer.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Salvatore Matrecano - 15-08-2019
We are probably neutral on transfer fees but I suspect it is the wages of running a 40man squad that is the problem, fag packet maths thats £400K a week or £20M a year approx.
Even if we offload most of the bomb squad I guess we will have to largely pay up their existing contracts. I suspect we are still paying the wages of the last 2 managers and their staff as well.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 04:43 PM)Widdow Wrote:(15-08-2019, 03:30 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(15-08-2019, 03:27 PM)Widdow Wrote:(06-08-2019, 10:07 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(26-07-2019, 10:25 PM)BadDog Wrote: This is a cash injection, we can buy our own shares if we want... tells me signings are coming!
That is how I see it too BD.
Lets hope we are right.
So many loop holes to get around FFP though it seems.
Well nothing really came of the cash injection with regards to spending transfer fees, but sure it was just helping with the running costs.
Decent size fees were paid for Sow, Jenkinson, Samba and Chema?
All undisclosed but imagine would’ve been covered by the outgoing transfer fees received this summer.
We have to look at the bigger picture though widdow. What about last summer when we spent about 25m? Plus let's not forget the 6m to Fawaz. It's not just about this summer.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Username - 15-08-2019
There were outgoings then as well, Brereton for one.
We have signed 20 players since January (not all have stayed) so the wage bill is what it is through our own transfer strategy.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 15-08-2019
Agreed Username regarding outgoings but I think since EM arrived we have spent more than we have received. We also need to remember that from the end of this season our capacity will be reduced by about one third for 2 seasons, that is a lot of income that is going to be lost.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Widdow - 15-08-2019
(15-08-2019, 07:33 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Agreed Username regarding outgoings but I think since EM arrived we have spent more than we have received. We also need to remember that from the end of this season our capacity will be reduced by about one third for 2 seasons, that is a lot of income that is going to be lost.
Transfer fee spending has only just gone over what they have received
This is a ROUGH guide of the ins and outs over since the Greeks took over. Based on prices mentioned in Newspapers, as many are undisclosed.
Plenty of players on big contracts have left, and of course plenty of players arrived and left on frees and loans
Looks like around 42 players arrived and around 50 players have departed, but still a big squad left with the likes of Bridcutt, Clough, Murphy, Aryibi, Cummings due to be bombed out as well
Roughly spent £37m on transfer fees, and roughly received £34m so in the red by 3m– not bad on FFP for Transfer fees
Ins
Carvalho - £13.5m
Grabban - £6m
Murphy £2m
Soudani - £2.5m
Jenkinson £2m
Figurido - £1.5m
Silva - £1m
Darikwa - £1m
Samba £1m
Sow £1m
Lolly - £1m
Cummings £900k
Cherma £800k
McKay £500k
Bridcutt - £500k
Pantmillion - £500k
Hefele - £300k
Bouchalakis – Free
Watson – Free
Guédioura – Free
Kapino - Free
Dawson- Free
Robinson – Free
Steele – Free
Dejagah - Free
Tomlin - loan
Dowell – loan
Dias – Loan
Byram – Loan
Colback – loan
Goncalves – Loan
Tachtsidis – Free
Ansarifard - Free
Yacob – Free
Milosevic – Free
Wague – loan
Ameobi - Free
Semedo – Loan
Muric – Loan
Adomah – Free
Riberio - free
Mir - loan
Outs
Assombalonga - £16m
Brereton - £7m
Mckay - £1.5m
Kapino - £1m
Lichaj - £500k
Stojkovic – Free
Lica – Free
Pinillos – free
Perquis Free
Fryatt - free
Mills - Free
Carayol - Free
Hobbs – Free
Vaughan Free
Walters – free
Traore – Free
Bouch – Free
Manciene - Free
Dejagah - Free
Cohen – retired
Lam – Out
Walker – loan
Cummings – loan
Grant – loan
Dowell – end of loan
Dumitru – end of loan
Tomlin – end of loan
Hilberto – end of loan
Kasami – end of loan
Fuentus – end of loan
Wague – end of loan
Bouchalakis – Free
Dias – end of loan
Byram – end of loan
Colback – end of loan
Goncalves – end of loan
Vellios – Free
Ahmedhodzic – Free
Henderson – free
Iavoitti -Free
Crookes – free
Jamie Ward - released
Tachtsidis – £400k
Ansarifard - £500k
Grant - £100
Osborn £3.5m
Soudani -£2.5m
Fox - £300k
Geddy?
Sure I’ve forgotten some players, and as mentioned prices are Best guesses, but clearly a lot of turnaround, and balanced the books.
It’s the wages of a bloated squad that is the worry, and perhaps why taking cash injections. It certainly wasn’t to fund new signings.
K
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Widdow - 15-08-2019
A nice fee for Geddy could even things up a little more.
RE: NFFC Financial Talk - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 15-08-2019
One or two things to remeber though.
1. Loans are not free, there have been some hefty loan fees involved.
2. Cash injections don't have to be spent straight away, it will be there in January if we want to use it.