(25-08-2021, 12:48 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 12:31 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

(25-08-2021, 01:16 PM)northeastred Wrote: We can afford sackings, there not included in ffp, Plymouth sacked 2 when they were in administration, there's a article somewhere if you Google it, only reason I can think he's not been sacked is the lack of signings, Johnson played 10 mins last weekend, you would think he would of started last night? I think he might be closer to a sale than we think

(25-08-2021, 01:13 PM)GaribaldiRED Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 12:48 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 12:31 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

I hear what you are saying SA and I agree but I fear that the vocal part of our supporters have invested too much into the "Hughton out" campaign to ever reconsider. Even if Hughton would win the next 5 games he would still be attacked and abused if we lost game number 6. I really don't see a way back. The atmosphere inside the WFCG seems quite hostile. It's almost like some people believe CH is losing on purpose. Abusive behavior is accepted and is spreading. I have to admit that I'm currently embarrassed to be a Forest fan and that is not because of results or the way we play but because of the "supporters" that we have and unfortunately those are a bit more difficult to get rid of then a manager.

(25-08-2021, 01:54 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 01:13 PM)GaribaldiRED Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 12:48 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 12:31 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Just received a couple of texts from my Swindon supporting mate from the outside looking in, make interesting reading too so I thought I'd share.

Sounds like you have your own version John Sheridan. Grinds the life out of players until they just dont care. Same players would do well under a diff regime.
Your squad is so much better than Derby's and yet you go into Saturday as underdogs. Your team should hammer theirs. That is down to Hughton.

Interest insight from somebody who is not a forest fan.

It's interesting.

But it doesn't add to a hill of beans if Hughton still hasn't got his own squad in a year later.

I'm sure Brighton and Newcastle fans weren't complaining when they banged the goals in to get promoted out of this league.

Without recruitment, the task of being competitive will burdensome to rookie players or older players who barely make the grade (and didn't last time around.)

Until we go through the pain barrier and keep the manager through a transition period of clearing out the previous manager's squads and players the rinse and repeat cycle will continue with predictable results.

'Manager bad.'  Yeah, yeah.  We've heard that for 24 years.

SA.

I hear what you are saying SA and I agree but I fear that the vocal part of our supporters have invested too much into the "Hughton out" campaign to ever reconsider. Even if Hughton would win the next 5 games he would still be attacked and abused if we lost game number 6. I really don't see a way back. The atmosphere inside the WFCG seems quite hostile. It's almost like some people believe CH is losing on purpose. Abusive behavior is accepted and is spreading. I have to admit that I'm currently embarrassed to be a Forest fan and that is not because of results or the way we play but because of the "supporters" that we have and unfortunately those are a bit more difficult to get rid of then a manager.

Win all our remaining games?  :D

(25-08-2021, 07:22 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

(25-08-2021, 07:37 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:22 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

(25-08-2021, 08:01 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:37 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:22 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

All loans.  (No PERMANENT outfield(!) signings in his year here.  Disgraceful.  Shabby treatment.)

No young target man to score the goals only the injured and ageing legs of Grabban and the ill-suited Lyle.

But this isn't news.  Sabri didn't get his quality striker either in that January window.

SA.

(25-08-2021, 08:01 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:37 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:22 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Other stats will show he's the worst backed manager ever.

No permanent outfield signings.

In 1 year.

And as we've seen.  Playing the Academy kids either in the 1st team or in the cup isn't enough.

SA.

He had knockaert, garner, krov and Murray last year, players he wanted and we were bloody awful. Result wise and entertainment wise.

All loans.  (No PERMANENT outfield(!) signings in his year here.  Disgraceful.  Shabby treatment.)

No young target man to score the goals only the injured and ageing legs of Grabban and the ill-suited Lyle.

But this isn't news.  Sabri didn't get his quality striker either in that January window.

SA.