Poll: Should Sabri be sacked immediately or not?
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Sack him now
31.25%
20 31.25%
Don't sack him now
68.75%
44 68.75%
Total 64 vote(s) 100%
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Should Sabri Be Sacked Or Not?
#61
Why is the poll closed?

No he shouldn't be sacked now.
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#62
(16-09-2020, 01:54 PM)Derby My Arse Wrote: Why is the poll closed?

No he shouldn't be sacked now.

The suggestion for the poll was to leave it up just for one day, so that's how I set it up.

So there you go - 68.75% of those who voted think he should not be sacked at the moment.

Hopefully results will improve to such a degree that a similar poll isn't required for a long, long time.
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#63
We’re going on a 20 game unbeaten run with some massive wins... let’s go!
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#64
I didn't get a chance to vote either.

It's a no from me.
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#65
(16-09-2020, 01:57 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote:
(16-09-2020, 01:54 PM)Derby My Arse Wrote: Why is the poll closed?

No he shouldn't be sacked now.

The suggestion for the poll was to leave it up just for one day, so that's how I set it up.

So there you go - 68.75% of those who voted think he should not be sacked at the moment.

Hopefully results will improve to such a degree that a similar poll isn't required for a long, long time.

Be interested to see this as a weekly poll, just to see how many people change their minds every week based on individual results. Suspect a win and we're somewhere like 90-10
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#66
it was a good turnout for the vote and good debate

i didn't vote, i tend to think Sabri is too damaged and should of gone the night of the Stoke game

But now, i think he has to win and win by actually setting up to win and don't think yesterday was the best day for him to go

See what happens Saturday, I'm looking forward to the game and as every game should be, a win or loss, either way i think it will have significant repurcussions
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#67
I’m pretty sure those who voted no (I didn’t ) haven’t done it based on one game and to suggest that is disingenuous.

The form is worrying, the results aren’t there and haven’t been for a while. Therefore for some they feel an inevitability about his departure.

With that in mind should we wait ten games before he goes? That’ll be 30 points up for grabs and a big say in where we finish come the end of the season.

It could be argued that had they brought Sabri in for the first day of training in the 19/20 season it might have made the difference to finishing 7th or 6th, the margins were so fine.

Benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but history tells us that to wait when something isn’t right tends to be counterproductive in the scheme of things.

A coherent argument can be made either way but to dismiss one third of people’s views as irrelevant suggests that you are out of touch with some valid concerns.

Oh, and let’s not cite LTLF as some beacon of sanity or balance, it’s largely just an echo chamber of the views of a few.
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#68
(17-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Username Wrote: I’m pretty sure those who voted go (I didn’t ) haven’t done it based on one game and to suggest that is disingenuous.

The form is worrying, the results aren’t there and haven’t been for a while. Therefore for some they feel an inevitability about his departure.

With that in mind should we wait ten games before he goes? That’ll be 30 points up for grabs and a big say in where we finish come the end of the season.

It could be argued that had they brought Sabri in for the first day of training in the 19/20 season it might have made the difference to finishing 7th or 6th, the margins were so fine.

Benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but history tells us that to wait when something isn’t right tends to be counterproductive in the scheme of things.

A coherent argument can be made either way but to dismiss one third of people’s views as irrelevant suggests that you are out of touch with some valid concerns.

Oh, and let’s not cite LTLF as some beacon of sanity or balance, it’s largely just an echo chamber of the views of a few.

Top post that, totally agree, all of my posts that are in favour of him going have been backed up with factual statistics over the course of time after the Leeds game. 

They can be rubbished by some all they like but the facts are the facts when put in front of your eyes. You can look at them with alarm or choose to turn the other way, sit tight hold on and hope things dramatically turn. 

We shall see in time with any of it.
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#69
(17-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Username Wrote: I’m pretty sure those who voted go (I didn’t ) haven’t done it based on one game and to suggest that is disingenuous.

The form is worrying, the results aren’t there and haven’t been for a while. Therefore for some they feel an inevitability about his departure.

With that in mind should we wait ten games before he goes? That’ll be 30 points up for grabs and a big say in where we finish come the end of the season.

It could be argued that had they brought Sabri in for the first day of training in the 19/20 season it might have made the difference to finishing 7th or 6th, the margins were so fine.

Benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but history tells us that to wait when something isn’t right tends to be counterproductive in the scheme of things.

A coherent argument can be made either way but to dismiss one third of people’s views as irrelevant suggests that you are out of touch with some valid concerns.

Oh, and let’s not cite LTLF as some beacon of sanity or balance, it’s largely just an echo chamber of the views of a few.

Well that depends on what History it is you are alluding to.

I am sure that if you were to dig around, you would find plenty of examples of managers being supported after a bad time, and then going on to build some form of success, particularly at the small Clubs who cannot buy their way out of problems.

After last seasons collapse, EM had two choices; back this manager or change the manager; he chose the former.

This has resulted in a significant change of personnel; so it is clear that no one is waiting, as you put it, and there is a recognition that all was not right.

Whether the changes implemented, are sufficient to progress on the incremental improvements we have witnessed prior to last season, is anyone's guess; I would think that attempting to build on those improvements stands a better chance of success than ripping everything up and starting again; you do run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water when you go down that route.

As things stand, we have dropped three points so far this season; we need a point on Saturday to match last seasons start to the season; that is the reality of the situation.

I am not averse to change, but I cannot see the point in allowing this manager the freedom to make all of the signings he has, and then get rid of him before he has had a chance to show what he can do with them.

I would not take poll results to heart either; they are nothing more than a bit of fun.

Do they reflect the true feelings of the support base; I seriously doubt it.

Before the lock down, the support for Sabri amongst people who go to games was virtually absolute; far less so from the people on Forums; it remains to be seen if that scenario has changed.
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#70
(17-09-2020, 07:12 AM)Karanka red Wrote:
(17-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Username Wrote: I’m pretty sure those who voted go (I didn’t ) haven’t done it based on one game and to suggest that is disingenuous.

The form is worrying, the results aren’t there and haven’t been for a while. Therefore for some they feel an inevitability about his departure.

With that in mind should we wait ten games before he goes? That’ll be 30 points up for grabs and a big say in where we finish come the end of the season.

It could be argued that had they brought Sabri in for the first day of training in the 19/20 season it might have made the difference to finishing 7th or 6th, the margins were so fine.

Benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but history tells us that to wait when something isn’t right tends to be counterproductive in the scheme of things.

A coherent argument can be made either way but to dismiss one third of people’s views as irrelevant suggests that you are out of touch with some valid concerns.

Oh, and let’s not cite LTLF as some beacon of sanity or balance, it’s largely just an echo chamber of the views of a few.

Top post that, totally agree, all of my posts that are in favour of him going have been backed up with factual statistics over the course of time after the Leeds game. 

They can be rubbished by some all they like but the facts are the facts when put in front of your eyes. You can look at them with alarm or choose to turn the other way, sit tight hold on and hope things dramatically turn. 

We shall see in time with any of it.

A season is 46 games. Not 10 or 20. Form can and does fluctuate. Injuries, run of difficult games, fatigue and even bad luck can all have impact on form. Over a season Sabri got a significant improvement from an unbalanced squad he took over at the last minute. Now to kick on a bit further and make us serious promotion contenders.
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#71
Polls like this are useful in finding out where the mood lies with fans. At the end of the day, what the owners think about Sabri’s performance is what matters. I would give him considerably longer, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s sacked at the weekend.

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#72
(17-09-2020, 08:16 AM)Jacksbadhobbits Wrote:
(17-09-2020, 07:12 AM)Karanka red Wrote:
(17-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Username Wrote: I’m pretty sure those who voted go (I didn’t ) haven’t done it based on one game and to suggest that is disingenuous.

The form is worrying, the results aren’t there and haven’t been for a while. Therefore for some they feel an inevitability about his departure.

With that in mind should we wait ten games before he goes? That’ll be 30 points up for grabs and a big say in where we finish come the end of the season.

It could be argued that had they brought Sabri in for the first day of training in the 19/20 season it might have made the difference to finishing 7th or 6th, the margins were so fine.

Benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but history tells us that to wait when something isn’t right tends to be counterproductive in the scheme of things.

A coherent argument can be made either way but to dismiss one third of people’s views as irrelevant suggests that you are out of touch with some valid concerns.

Oh, and let’s not cite LTLF as some beacon of sanity or balance, it’s largely just an echo chamber of the views of a few.

Top post that, totally agree, all of my posts that are in favour of him going have been backed up with factual statistics over the course of time after the Leeds game. 

They can be rubbished by some all they like but the facts are the facts when put in front of your eyes. You can look at them with alarm or choose to turn the other way, sit tight hold on and hope things dramatically turn. 

We shall see in time with any of it.

A season is 46 games. Not 10 or 20. Form can and does fluctuate. Injuries, run of difficult games, fatigue and even bad luck can all have impact on form. Over a season Sabri got a significant improvement from an unbalanced squad he took over at the last minute. Now to kick on a bit further and make us serious promotion contenders.

Bad form from good teams does not tend to last over that period of time, all the stats behind the performances are very concerning to me, that chucked in with the dire boring displays that go with it top it off. Very one dimensional and predictable. 

That is concerning, I may be wrong with that in time but we will see, maybe lamouchi can get us creating a lot more chances than we have for months. We have one of the fewest touches in the oppositions penalty area in the league too, but we should be happy with that style it seems. 

Sabri's style does not have longevity in my opinion of course.
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