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Seriously the Dyche hate is well over the top and frankly tedious.

You may remember Postecoglu and Nino never played Omari at all. Dyche was the one to introduce him.

The price tag was too high but we do have a good player with a lot of potential

Normally in a dressing room, the players not getting picked have gripes with the manager.
When Dyche was in charge, he was universally disliked amongst all players, even those he picked every week ! analysts and basically everyone outside of Nick Randall and Johnny Owen.

Stone and Woan were christened dumb and dumber by the squad !

Fair enough and if they didn’t respond to the coaching staff it’s time to go. The growth in player power is getting concerning though, not just us, Tottenham Chelsea and others forcing a change. Are the players correct or are they being found out?

Genuine question to you, what did the squad make of Ange? Did they want him to stay?

The players were very upset when Nuno left, he was a Father figure to a lot of them, and it was like a family.

Re Ange - could never work, players weren't recruited to play his football, and the players Didnt trust the all out attack approach. Also we never got the best version of Ange. He was still scarred and cooked from the Spurs job.

Dyche - just weird methods, Didnt gel with the squad. They were trying hard for the club, as all players are very grateful and like Marinakis, and feel a debt of gratitude, but as the weeks went on, the training methods, they way he spoke to them, they weren’t having him or his assistants. Marinakis had no option as the 11 that were playing just weren’t having him either !

Hutchinson was upset when Nuno left?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Seriously the Dyche hate is well over the top and frankly tedious.

You may remember Postecoglu and Nino never played Omari at all. Dyche was the one to introduce him.

The price tag was too high but we do have a good player with a lot of potential

Normally in a dressing room, the players not getting picked have gripes with the manager.
When Dyche was in charge, he was universally disliked amongst all players, even those he picked every week ! analysts and basically everyone outside of Nick Randall and Johnny Owen.

Stone and Woan were christened dumb and dumber by the squad !

Glad you said that Reds73 and not me.

I would have had all kinds of accusations aimed at me for saying such a thing.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

It was the inference that Dyche destroyed Omari’s confidence when it was well known that Nuno refused to play him and for whatever reason Ange didn’t either.

I do not doubt that Dyches methods were disliked by the squad in general. That this sort of dissent is becoming widespread in football is another issue.

[ozzyten10]

Dyche didn’t use the analysts in information and did his own thing - their methods were % driven and not based on the way our analysts were working. I suppose the thing here is how much power do you give a head coach / manager?

[Salvatore Matrecano]

“Away supporters are accommodated in the third tier of the North Stand, situated directly above home supporters. Due to previous incidents involving the throwing of objects from this area, which have resulted in injuries to home fans, Sunderland AFC has implemented a robust and enhanced search regime for all away supporters.”


Well, as per Premier League rules how about yourselves and your hated Geordie neighbours put away fans by the pitch side like every other club.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Dyche didn’t use the analysts in information and did his own thing - their methods were % driven and not based on the way our analysts were working. I suppose the thing here is how much power do you give a head coach / manager?

Yes thats a very good point. Which begs the question why was he appointed to begin with if everything about the set up with Dyche didn’t fit? Same goes with Ange.

[Reds73]

Seriously the Dyche hate is well over the top and frankly tedious.

You may remember Postecoglu and Nino never played Omari at all. Dyche was the one to introduce him.

The price tag was too high but we do have a good player with a lot of potential

Normally in a dressing room, the players not getting picked have gripes with the manager.
When Dyche was in charge, he was universally disliked amongst all players, even those he picked every week ! analysts and basically everyone outside of Nick Randall and Johnny Owen.

Stone and Woan were christened dumb and dumber by the squad !

Fair enough and if they didn’t respond to the coaching staff it’s time to go. The growth in player power is getting concerning though, not just us, Tottenham Chelsea and others forcing a change. Are the players correct or are they being found out?

Genuine question to you, what did the squad make of Ange? Did they want him to stay?

The players were very upset when Nuno left, he was a Father figure to a lot of them, and it was like a family.

Re Ange - could never work, players weren't recruited to play his football, and the players Didnt trust the all out attack approach. Also we never got the best version of Ange. He was still scarred and cooked from the Spurs job.

Dyche - just weird methods, Didnt gel with the squad. They were trying hard for the club, as all players are very grateful and like Marinakis, and feel a debt of gratitude, but as the weeks went on, the training methods, they way he spoke to them, they weren’t having him or his assistants. Marinakis had no option as the 11 that were playing just weren’t having him either !

Hutchinson was upset when Nuno left?

Nuno wanted Traore.

[Fumanchew]

Dyche didn’t use the analysts in information and did his own thing - their methods were % driven and not based on the way our analysts were working. I suppose the thing here is how much power do you give a head coach / manager?

Yes thats a very good point. Which begs the question why was he appointed to begin with if everything about the set up with Dyche didn’t fit? Same goes with Ange.

Cus he and stone and woan were ‘Forest through and through’ and it probably was half pr stunt to try and galvanise the fans. Some say it was driven my mates on the board too. Maybe he was the only one really available

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It was the inference that Dyche destroyed Omari’s confidence when it was well known that Nuno refused to play him and for whatever reason Ange didn’t either.

I do not doubt that Dyches methods were disliked by the squad in general. That this sort of dissent is becoming widespread in football is another issue.

Nuno only had Omari for 3 games or somthing like that.

Dyche had him for the majority of the season.

I agree with you though Sal that player dissent is becoming more widespread.

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Big game tonight. 

Interesting to see what the team will be.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

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