Are We Going Down?

[Sausage Roll]

Definitely Spurs.

If they do as badly over the next seven matches as they've done through the past seven then we're already safe.

[Paplane]

Definitely Spurs.

If they do as badly over the next seven matches as they've done through the past seven then we're already safe.

Spurs for me too.  I just want the premier league establishment to know that a 'big 6' club is not immune from failure, just as much as clubs like us, Leeds, Wolves etc are.  It's like natural justice. Build the billion dollar stadium stadium, compete in the Champions League, charge fans the earth, then wallop, get yourself in the championship and taste what football's really about at 3.00pm on a Saturday away at Lincoln.

[Paplane]

Definitely Spurs.

If they do as badly over the next seven matches as they've done through the past seven then we're already safe.

They bottom of the form table in almost every metric. See here https://thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?tab...ab-overall

Last 6, last 10, home, away, goals, Xpts - all rock bottom of the league.

If this were a club like Bournemouth, Leeds, Brentford the football world would be saying their absolutely doomed. But the consensus seems to be that the players just need to be played in their correct position and everything's going to be fine. I watched Clinton Morrison suggesting he could keep them up earlier by doing that. Like it's the easiest thing on earth to do!

[jurgen rober]

I wish it was 4 down so we could get rid of Spurs and Wet Spam.

[Paplane]

I wish it was 4 down so we could get rid of Spurs and Wet Spam.

Yep, for similar reason's I'd like to see the end of West Ham. They're a club who think they're part of the elite in football and are part of the premier league establishment when the truth really is that they benefit hugely just from being located in London. They've been handed a free stadium at the taxpayers expense and suddenly they think they're football royalty. On your bike West Ham, you've got your Milwall derby to think about next season.

[Sausage Roll]

Definitely Spurs.

If they do as badly over the next seven matches as they've done through the past seven then we're already safe.

They bottom of the form table in almost every metric. See here https://thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?tab...ab-overall

Last 6, last 10, home, away, goals, Xpts - all rock bottom of the league.

If this were a club like Bournemouth, Leeds, Brentford the football world would be saying their absolutely doomed. But the consensus seems to be that the players just need to be played in their correct position and everything's going to be fine. I watched Clinton Morrison suggesting he could keep them up earlier by doing that. Like it's the easiest thing on earth to do!

I have noticed that a lot from pundits and online too. 'Oh I think Spurs will be OK.' Based on what exactly?

Like you said, they're bottom of the form table for everything. After we went ahead on Sunday the players and fans just looked numb and apart from that little flurry just after we scored and another just before full time they offered nothing.

I'm genuinely not sure if any manager would be able to help them because I'm not sure they'll have the stomach for the fight. I don't want West Ham to beat Wolves obviously but it'll be very interesting if they do and plunge Spurs into the bottom three. How will they react to that?

[Paplane]

Definitely Spurs.

If they do as badly over the next seven matches as they've done through the past seven then we're already safe.

They bottom of the form table in almost every metric. See here https://thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?tab...ab-overall

Last 6, last 10, home, away, goals, Xpts - all rock bottom of the league.

If this were a club like Bournemouth, Leeds, Brentford the football world would be saying their absolutely doomed. But the consensus seems to be that the players just need to be played in their correct position and everything's going to be fine. I watched Clinton Morrison suggesting he could keep them up earlier by doing that. Like it's the easiest thing on earth to do!

I have noticed that a lot from pundits and online too. 'Oh I think Spurs will be OK.' Based on what exactly?

Like you said, they're bottom of the form table for everything. After we went ahead on Sunday the players and fans just looked numb and apart from that little flurry just after we scored and another just before full time they offered nothing.

I'm genuinely not sure if any manager would be able to help them because I'm not sure they'll have the stomach for the fight. I don't want West Ham to beat Wolves obviously but it'll be very interesting if they do and plunge Spurs into the bottom three. How will they react to that?

I've been of that opinion these last few weeks - they're just too big to go down, but having observed close up the way they capitulated against us at the weekend was a thing to see. It really was. It was every bit a relegation team performance. We've seem them a few times with our club. Look like you do well in a game, have a few chances but dont score, then wallop loose a goal and capitulate. They're currently the worse team in the division by a country mile. Is a new manager going to be capable of coming in and turning it around with just 7 games remaining? Possible I suppose but a really big task.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I wish it was 4 down so we could get rid of Spurs and Wet Spam.

Yep, for similar reason's I'd like to see the end of West Ham. They're a club who think they're part of the elite in football and are part of the premier league establishment when the truth really is that they benefit hugely just from being located in London. They've been handed a free stadium at the taxpayers expense and suddenly they think they're football royalty. On your bike West Ham, you've got your Milwall derby to think about next season.

They also have a snake of a manager.

[Paplane]

I wish it was 4 down so we could get rid of Spurs and Wet Spam.

Yep, for similar reason's I'd like to see the end of West Ham. They're a club who think they're part of the elite in football and are part of the premier league establishment when the truth really is that they benefit hugely just from being located in London. They've been handed a free stadium at the taxpayers expense and suddenly they think they're football royalty. On your bike West Ham, you've got your Milwall derby to think about next season.

They also have a snake of a manager.

Yes, there's that too.

[JohnG]

Joking apart with Liverpool, I would want it but not possible. I think if I could choose from those battling, I'd go West Ham first because of a few reasons including Nuno, then Spurs. Ideally both, but I can't see Burnley catching both of them.

West Ham have showed some form and I still see them as quite a danger for us.

Spurs were the better team in the first half overall, but I don't know whether it was the double sub and tweaks Tudor made, or that they just lost confidence and fight again. If they change manager for the last few games and get it right, could that turn around to enough of a degree?

[Paplane]

Joking apart with Liverpool, I would want it but not possible. I think if I could choose from those battling, I'd go West Ham first because of a few reasons including Nuno, then Spurs. Ideally both, but I can't see Burnley catching both of them.

West Ham have showed some form and I still see them as quite a danger for us.

Spurs were the better team in the first half overall, but I don't know whether it was the double sub and tweaks Tudor made, or that they just lost confidence and fight again. If they change manager for the last few games and get it right, could that turn around to enough of a degree?

Spurs were the better team, but as we've seen ourselves, if you cant put the ball in the net it means nothing. And looking back now, the subs they made at half time and the change in system did them no favours at all. If anything it made them weaker while simultaneously VP managed to organise us to make us more solid/coherent.   They got worse, we got better.

[Sausage Roll]

Yup. Spurs' first-half performance reminded me of so many of ours this season: play some nice football, create some chances but fail to score then bang - a goal down and wondering how we'll get back into it.