Dyche Out

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

That pretty much nails it for me. I was pro Dyche and could never understand my 2 Everton mates moaning about him constantly. Now I get it. Absolute fraud.

Yeah another one who pulled the wool over owners eyes!

What’s your view Widdow? You usually have good snippets. Do you think he had to go?

Yes. Which is a shame really. He got the club, he didnt get the players (or they didnt get him)

Yeah really hoped that it would work out but seems he lost a lot of the players and fans.

Once that happens there is only one outcome.

[Username]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

Thought we went to Brentford and won after Wrexham and Dyche was nominated for manager of the month?

[Marinakis Red]

The mood around the camp and the club under Dyche was not good, the performances on the pitch were deteriorating quickly, we thank him for the points he put on the board and move on, we are in far better shape right now then we ever were under his tenure.

Its not all about one man now, it's about a club again. That's where vitor has nailed it.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

[nffc93]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Agreed.

[Marinakis Red]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Totally agree, less diplomatic than I was.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Totally agree, less diplomatic than I was.

Well you know me MR.

I was never the diplomatic type 

[Paplane]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Think it's entirely reasonable to be able to discuss a sacked manager, especially one that lasted such a short period of time.

For what it's worth, that defeat to Wrexham was an utter shambles and imo Dyche was perfectly entitled to criticise the players for the performace they put in. We nearly went in at half time 3-0 down. People have short memories if they cant remember how bad it was. I was very angry after that defeat and Dyche's words were cathartic. And let's not forget, it was the second Championship side that had beaten that team this season.

[wassy04]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Think it's entirely reasonable to be able to discuss a sacked manager, especially one that lasted such a short period of time.

For what it's worth, that defeat to Wrexham was an utter shambles and imo Dyche was perfectly entitled to criticise the players for the performace they put in. We nearly went in at half time 3-0 down. People have short memories if they cant remember how bad it was. I was very angry after that defeat and Dyche's words were cathartic. And let's not forget, it was the second Championship side that had beaten that team this season.

I think the issue was that Dyche took no responsibility for the loss and blamed it all on the players. Just not a good way to treat younger players these days as was acknowledged in that article. Also, we've seen now that those guys aren't as terrible as Dyche got them to play.

[Paplane]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Think it's entirely reasonable to be able to discuss a sacked manager, especially one that lasted such a short period of time.

For what it's worth, that defeat to Wrexham was an utter shambles and imo Dyche was perfectly entitled to criticise the players for the performace they put in. We nearly went in at half time 3-0 down. People have short memories if they cant remember how bad it was. I was very angry after that defeat and Dyche's words were cathartic. And let's not forget, it was the second Championship side that had beaten that team this season.

I think the issue was that Dyche took no responsibility for the loss and blamed it all on the players. Just not a good way to treat younger players these days as was acknowledged in that article. Also, we've seen now that those guys aren't as terrible as Dyche got them to play.

But it was the players who didn't perform! And the reason they aren't as bad now might just be down to the fact that they've had more time to acclimatise to the club/country, and they've had more game time on the pitch together. It might be nothing to do with the way they have/are being coached. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect prem players to win at least one out of two games against championship sides. 

I wanted Dyche out at the end but I'm not going to blame him for every bad thing that's happened. Edu was primarily responsible for the summer's signings. He will have been aware that these new players would be required to be thrown in for games like Wrexham and Swansea. The truth is that these players just weren't up to the task. They may be now but it's taken the best part of a whole season for us to see it. Edu should have been aware of that. And he should have been aware that having a blazing row with the incumbent head coach the minute you arrive is not good management. The guy was useless and to be fair to Marinakis, he eventually realised this and got rid.

[wassy04]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

Think it's entirely reasonable to be able to discuss a sacked manager, especially one that lasted such a short period of time.

For what it's worth, that defeat to Wrexham was an utter shambles and imo Dyche was perfectly entitled to criticise the players for the performace they put in. We nearly went in at half time 3-0 down. People have short memories if they cant remember how bad it was. I was very angry after that defeat and Dyche's words were cathartic. And let's not forget, it was the second Championship side that had beaten that team this season.

I think the issue was that Dyche took no responsibility for the loss and blamed it all on the players. Just not a good way to treat younger players these days as was acknowledged in that article. Also, we've seen now that those guys aren't as terrible as Dyche got them to play.

But it was the players who didn't perform! And the reason they aren't as bad now might just be down to the fact that they've had more time to acclimatise to the club/country, and they've had more game time on the pitch together. It might be nothing to do with the way they have/are being coached. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect prem players to win at least one out of two games against championship sides. 

I wanted Dyche out at the end but I'm not going to blame him for every bad thing that's happened. Edu was primarily responsible for the summer's signings. He will have been aware that these new players would be required to be thrown in for games like Wrexham and Swansea. The truth is that these players just weren't up to the task. They may be now but it's taken the best part of a whole season for us to see it. Edu should have been aware of that. And he should have been aware that having a blazing row with the incumbent head coach the minute you arrive is not good management. The guy was useless and to be fair to Marinakis, he eventually realised this and got rid.

That Midtjylland game wasn't that long after Wrexham.

I'm just a firm believer that calling out players in the media is a bad approach to management and not going to get players onside going forward. 

Not to mention our tactics in games like Everton at home that were so painful to watch.

Maybe Pereira is just a managerial genius though!

[Paplane]

here's that Tom collomosse piece: