Sean Dyche, Stoney And Woany

[DeesideRed]

I accept that we aren't creating a lot of chances right now but Jesus is our weak link at the moment. He isn't a premier league striker and if he played for any other club in the world other than Botafogo we would have had zero interest in signing him.

I think that is a bit unfair Tom but we all have our own opinions.

Agree Sniff. Jesus was excellent in the club world cup for Botofogo in the summer. I watched a couple of their games to see him. People have probably forgotten that he played in that summer tournament. The lad is probably absolutely shattered.

I think that's a good point tbf, I look at Liverpool where he was meeting crosses as he was sharp and getting there in front of VVD ("THE WORLDS GREATEST EVER") and Konate yet now he's not quite as sharp. Id forgotten about the CWC and it's a great shout that he's dropping off because of that

[wassy04]

I accept that we aren't creating a lot of chances right now but Jesus is our weak link at the moment. He isn't a premier league striker and if he played for any other club in the world other than Botafogo we would have had zero interest in signing him.

I think that is a bit unfair Tom but we all have our own opinions.

Agree Sniff. Jesus was excellent in the club world cup for Botofogo in the summer. I watched a couple of their games to see him. People have probably forgotten that he played in that summer tournament. The lad is probably absolutely shattered.

I think that's a good point tbf, I look at Liverpool where he was meeting crosses as he was sharp and getting there in front of VVD ("THE WORLDS GREATEST EVER") and Konate yet now he's not quite as sharp. Id forgotten about the CWC and it's a great shout that he's dropping off because of that

Not just that, he's played every game since then starting 11 after having no preseason. No surprise he's burned out by now, we desperately need someone to give he a rest and a chance to recharge.

[Trailer Park Tom]

I have no issues with any of the counters people are putting forward, Jesus has made decent/good contributions in some games. I'm not saying he is shit. 

Although the Club World Cup was a dubious competition with some pretty poor teams involved.   

But I ask you guys two questions;

Not including the attacking wingers for tactical rotation reasons, which player/position would we most benefit from changing personnel long-term?

Did we sign Jesus because of our relationship with John Texlor?

I don't think i'm being too harsh really. He's scored 1 goal in 20 odd league games and we trade players with Texlors group of clubs for financial reasons.

[Paplane]

I have no issues with any of the counters people are putting forward, Jesus has made decent/good contributions in some games. I'm not saying he is S**t. 

Although the Club World Cup was a dubious competition with some pretty poor teams involved.   

But I ask you guys two questions;

Not including the attacking wingers for tactical rotation reasons, which player/position would we most benefit from changing personnel long-term?

Did we sign Jesus because of our relationship with John Texlor?

I don't think i'm being too harsh really. He's scored 1 goal in 20 odd league games and we trade players with Texlors group of clubs for financial reasons.

Eh? Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG, Atletico, Chelsea, Man City, Dortmund, Juventus, Inter. And that's just the European clubs! Some might not have been 100% committed, which I suspect is your point, but there were top clubs involved.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I think 8 goals for Jesus so far is pretty good going.

He had no rest in the summer, barely had a pre season or knew his team mates, a young lad in a new country and in the toughest league in the world.

And lets not forget how isolated he is.

I am not convinced Wood would have more than 8 goals this season with the way our Striker is isolated.

[Trailer Park Tom]

I have no issues with any of the counters people are putting forward, Jesus has made decent/good contributions in some games. I'm not saying he is S**t. 

Although the Club World Cup was a dubious competition with some pretty poor teams involved.   

But I ask you guys two questions;

Not including the attacking wingers for tactical rotation reasons, which player/position would we most benefit from changing personnel long-term?

Did we sign Jesus because of our relationship with John Texlor?

I don't think i'm being too harsh really. He's scored 1 goal in 20 odd league games and we trade players with Texlors group of clubs for financial reasons.

Eh? Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG, Atletico, Chelsea, Man City, Dortmund, Juventus, Inter. And that's just the European clubs! Some might not have been 100% committed, which I suspect is your point, but there were top clubs involved.

Mamalodi Sundowns, Ulsan, Urawa Reds, Monterry, Wydad AC, ES Tunis, Aucland City, Al Ahly, Al Ain.

And that's without the MLS Teams.

Why are people so desperate to defend this guy?  :Funny: Brennan Johnson went 3/4 games without doing anything under Cooper and people were saying his was shite and shouldn't play. Same with Elanga last season.

Jesus pretty much has Emmanuel Dennis's form.

[Trailer Park Tom]

I think 8 goals for Jesus so far is pretty good going.

He had no rest in the summer, barely had a pre season or knew his team mates, a young lad in a new country and in the toughest league in the world.

And lets not forget how isolated he is.

I am not convinced Wood would have more than 8 goals this season with the way our Striker is isolated.

Wood already has more than 1 goal this season Sniff.

People going to extreme measures to protect EM's relationship with Tex.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Jesus has 8 goals not one.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

I have no issues with any of the counters people are putting forward, Jesus has made decent/good contributions in some games. I'm not saying he is S**t. 

Although the Club World Cup was a dubious competition with some pretty poor teams involved.   

But I ask you guys two questions;

Not including the attacking wingers for tactical rotation reasons, which player/position would we most benefit from changing personnel long-term?

Did we sign Jesus because of our relationship with John Texlor?

I don't think i'm being too harsh really. He's scored 1 goal in 20 odd league games and we trade players with Texlors group of clubs for financial reasons.

Eh? Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG, Atletico, Chelsea, Man City, Dortmund, Juventus, Inter. And that's just the European clubs! Some might not have been 100% committed, which I suspect is your point, but there were top clubs involved.

Mamalodi Sundowns, Ulsan, Urawa Reds, Monterry, Wydad AC, ES Tunis, Aucland City, Al Ahly, Al Ain.

And that's without the MLS Teams.

Why are people so desperate to defend this guy?  :Funny: Brennan Johnson went 3/4 games without doing anything under Cooper and people were saying his was shite and shouldn't play.

Jesus pretty much has Emmanuel Dennis's form.

He's many miles better than Dennis but you do have a point. Johnson, Elanga and even MGW have a dry spell and people are screaming for them to be dropped.

Maybe it’s because he clearly works hard and also that we have little to zero alternative. But I stand by the point he isn’t a natural lone CF and needs some help up there.

[Trailer Park Tom]

Jesus has 8 goals not one.

Right and where are we in the league?

Desperate lengths to defend EM.

1 goal in 20

[stirred]

Very harsh take.

The actual sides Jesus played against were PSG, Seattle, Atletico Madrid and Palmeiras, and he scored twice and played well.

We lump the ball into the box and don’t create many chances.He does a good job at hold up play, much better at that than Wood, but we haven’t created chances like we did for Wood last season.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

What are you talking about Tom?

I haven't mentioned EM at all.