Stadium Poll

[Redgirl]

The clubs identity is based on the fact we are on the banks of the Trent, our Anthem,  our Badge.  Our ground is iconic, how anyone wants to move baffles me. Where will the 15000 fans that someone has quoted be when we’re lower mid table Championship? 

It’s happened before and it could well happen again.

The sites that have been mentioned are horrendous. How iconic is Toton? Radcliffe on Soar?

What have they got to do with our name, we are Nottingham Forest. Are fans prepared for a change of name? or our badge, the most recognisable badge in the league.

It’s not just the ground IMO it’s our whole identity.

[Trailer Park Tom]

hasn't done Fulham or Palace any harm working on a side stand whilst keeping their identity.

[Username]

Anyone who was in the ground on Saturday surely only votes one way, the opposition to moving was extremely loud and vocal at times.

Isn't noise and atmosphere created by fans though, and not buildings?

I'm told by a Leicester fan that their atmosphere, in their bowl, was incredible when they won the prem.

I sat in their home end last season when they beat us 4-0. 

You could only hear the away fans.

[Username]

Anyone who was in the ground on Saturday surely only votes one way, the opposition to moving was extremely loud and vocal at times.

Did you hear the 15000 genuine Forest supporters who couldn’t get a ticket voicing their opposition. It is alright for us season ticket holders but to compete we need bigger crowds and if that means moving I’m in favour.

There is absolutely no statistic that supports this. 

And where will those ‘genuine’ fans be when times are hard?

[Username]

Anyone who was in the ground on Saturday surely only votes one way, the opposition to moving was extremely loud and vocal at times.

Did you hear the 15000 genuine Forest supporters who couldn’t get a ticket voicing their opposition. It is alright for us season ticket holders but to compete we need bigger crowds and if that means moving I’m in favour.

It wasn't that vocal either. Certainly not the whole stadium

Don’t know where you sit but I reckon at least 90% were on their feet for stand up for the City Ground.
Think its wrong to suggest all those without tickets are in favour of a move too.

Upper Bridgford. Didn't feel like the whole stadium to be to be honest

No one said it was the whole stadium, that would be a ridiculous statement but it was most definitely the loud majority.

[TrentEnd]

I'd love to stay at the City Ground but it depends what we want. If we want to push on up the table, we probably have to move to get better revenue streams. If we want history, tradition and individuality, we stay, but probably accept struggling at the bottom of Prem at best. Today's too football is a money game. I hate it, but that is the reality.

Forest Focus did a good podcast today asking what a Spurs, West Ham and Everton fan thought of their moves. Persuaded me that we do probably have to move, but that move has to be in Nottingham and certainly not Toton.

[Tricky]

I have thought about this overnight and have come to the conclusion that a move is probably the right thing to do. I doubt very much I will be around when the club does move.

The club announced plans to rebuild the PT stand 5 years ago and it has taken that long to get to this stage. For a complete new stadium to be built, the club need to find the right location. I do not think Toton is the right place. It is nearly as close to Derby than it is to Nottingham!! Then the land will have to be purchased, along with all of the necessary surveys, consultations for transport links, infrastructure, amenities, local impact etc etc. Then the place has got to be built. A high end quality stadium could take 5 or more years to be constructed. Finance will have to be found. I very much doubt even EM would plough in almost a £1B of his own wealth into the project (Evertons ground is reportedly costing over £900M so far, although there were some major obstacles that had to be overcome). I honestly cant see the club leaving for a new site within the next 10 years TBH.

By then, I will be frail and old, if not dead. I wont be going to matches anymore then, or at least I doubt I will!! But our younger generations will and we have got to think about them and their families and future generations. IF a move will place us in a better position to become a potent force in the PL and we once again become a force to be reckoned with both domestically and on the international stage, then we have no choice.

We could stay at the City Ground and stay as we are, but honestly, do any of you want to go through some of the shit we have had to endure over the past two seasons on a regular basis? However, if we do move sites but the playing side of things doesn't improve, we are going to be stuck in a very big stadium with only half of the seats taken back in the Championship or worse. Big risk!

A new ground will also offer additional revenue from other sources, i.e conferencing suites, on site amenities etc. The club simply has to look at ways to engage the stadium to its maximum potential. That is not a choice, it is a necessity.

So after careful thoughts and deliberations, I think a move is the only viable option that will take the club forwards to where it wants to be. Just not at Toton!

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I have gone from being dead against to now sitting on the fence.

[Marinakis Red]

I just want to see the plans the location and what it will look like before I make any judgement either way.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Still somewhat confused as to logic from some of you.
The arguments have never changed, it has always been simpler to do a new build.
We have always known the CG doesn’t generate enough commercial revenue and doesn’t have a large enough capacity for bigger games. More revenue means growth opportunities for the club.
All this was true when Doughty wanted to move us to Gamston 20 years ago. Until a few days ago the overwhelming majority reaction was, we dont care we want to stay at the CG.

Therefore those of you know in favour or have shifted opinion, why the change?

[optimistic_red]

Until we know the location and see a stadium plan I can't support a move. The detail is important. I'm not completely closed to the idea of a move, but its a massive decision so its vital its the right one.

This season we had the 14th largest stadium in the Premier league, and I think we have the 23rd largest in England. Revenue can be increased at the City Ground if we do stay.

[Tricky]

Still somewhat confused as to logic from some of you.
The arguments have never changed, it has always been simpler to do a new build.
We have always known the CG doesn’t generate enough commercial revenue and doesn’t have a large enough capacity for bigger games. More revenue means growth opportunities for the club.
All this was true when Doughty wanted to move us to Gamston 20 years ago. Until a few days ago the overwhelming majority reaction was, we dont care we want to stay at the CG.

Therefore those of you know in favour or have shifted opinion, why the change?

For me Sal, it is probably down to stopping and thinking about the whole scenario, looking outside of the box if you like, and seeing the much bigger picture.

I have let my heart rule my head on this as it is an emotive issue. However, my head has now taken over and whilst it will pain me to know we may be moving to a new home, I now think the right move is probably the right option moving forwards.

As I said in my post, I doubt I will be around to see any move, but that would be me being selfish if I stood firm on the stay at the City Ground, rather than thinking of the club and its fan base in the future.

However, it might be worth asking the same question of the club!

It wasn't so long ago that Nicholas Randall KC informed the world that the lease had now been extended to 250 years and Tom Cartledge was spouting off that the City Ground would forever be our forever home? So who was lying? What has turned the clubs decision? I feel the decision to look at alternative sites is more to do with the planning application for the apartments being stuck in the mud, the problems with the Boatclubs and the numerous objections to those rather than it being a purely football decision.

If there was a feasible way in which we could stay at the City Ground, whilst being able to increase revenue streams, increase the stadium size and bring the rest of the ground up to modern day standards, then I would 100% be in the stay camp.