Crap Referees

[wassy04]

This isn’t going to end well. We will get the book thrown at us for this.

I honestly don't care what they throw at us Ozzy mate.

I have been fairly quiet on this issue because I wanted to have a good think about it.

I have now come to the conclusion that I am proud of my club for doing what they are doing and for taking a stance.

Other clubs , fans and pundits etc can say what they like I honestly couldn't give a toss.

But we are the ones who are standing up to the 'school bully' and if others want to hide behind their sofas in fear then shame on them.

Who is the school bully? We've had some bad decisions but there's no-one out to get us (or at least there wasn't!)

I just don't see what we're hoping to achieve? Get all the refs sacked? The refs are poor but what is the solution?

What is the alternative?

To stay quiet and to do nothing, just roll over like a soppy old dog, give a V for vivtory sign and say yeah peace man.

Sorry Wassy but if you want to stay quiet then you become part of the problem.

What is "the problem"? Shit refereeing decisions? 

Best case scenario, what are you hoping we achieve?

[wassy04]

For me it has to end with officials losing their jobs.

In any other walk of life it would be unacceptable and their positions would be untenable.

Doesn't help us in any way at all other than ensuring they don't ref us again!/

Ok finally someone answered the question of what is the point of this!

[wassy04]

If mine is a minority opinion then fair enough. IMO think both the fans plus the ownership and management are getting distracted from what is important. I haven’t noticed a siege mentality from the team.

Also I think you are failing to realise if we are no longer a Premier League club, we are no longer newsworthy. We get relegated, we go back to being an afterthought, on a different page in football websites, we can moan and wail and produce reams of evidence but nobody will hear it.

I'm with you, although I would say this is the playbook that most top managers use to shield their players from poor performances. It is usually quite an effective approach, not sure it'll help us beat Man City.

[stirred]

None of the above will help us when we are in the Championship.

Getting a bit frustrated by all this noble thing we are doing, moral high ground stuff particularly when we have broken PSR rules and behaved in a careless manner towards supporters over ticket prices.

We have a team that needs to get at least 4 more points fro its last 4 games or all our foot stamping becomes irrelevant. Get your priorities in order.

If we continue to get shafted by refereeing decisions we will be in the Championship. Man City & Chelsea could be difficult to get points in, which just leaves 2 other matches to Sheff Utd & Burnley. It may only take a couple more bad decisions by officials, eg a Boly-esque red card in the Burnley match, to put us down. Standing up to these decisions and getting attention on them is absolutely consistent with trying to stay up.

You bring up PSR but a) we only broke it due to the timing of the sale of Johnson and b) we avoided relegation by finishing above Everton & Leicester, both of whom we now know broke PSR themselves in a more egregious way. If we hadn't spent extra we would most likely be in the Championship now, feeling sorry for ourselves when others had broken the rules.

[wassy04]

None of the above will help us when we are in the Championship.

Getting a bit frustrated by all this noble thing we are doing, moral high ground stuff particularly when we have broken PSR rules and behaved in a careless manner towards supporters over ticket prices.

We have a team that needs to get at least 4 more points fro its last 4 games or all our foot stamping becomes irrelevant. Get your priorities in order.

If we continue to get shafted by refereeing decisions we will be in the Championship. Man City & Chelsea could be difficult to get points in, which just leaves 2 other matches to Sheff Utd & Burnley. It may only take a couple more bad decisions by officials, eg a Boly-esque red card in the Burnley match, to put us down. Standing up to these decisions and getting attention on them is absolutely consistent with trying to stay up.

You bring up PSR but a) we only broke it due to the timing of the sale of Johnson and b) we avoided relegation by finishing above Everton & Leicester, both of whom we now know broke PSR themselves in a more egregious way. If we hadn't spent extra we would most likely be in the Championship now, feeling sorry for ourselves when others had broken the rules.

How will this stop us getting bad decisions?

[stirred]

None of the above will help us when we are in the Championship.

Getting a bit frustrated by all this noble thing we are doing, moral high ground stuff particularly when we have broken PSR rules and behaved in a careless manner towards supporters over ticket prices.

We have a team that needs to get at least 4 more points fro its last 4 games or all our foot stamping becomes irrelevant. Get your priorities in order.

If we continue to get shafted by refereeing decisions we will be in the Championship. Man City & Chelsea could be difficult to get points in, which just leaves 2 other matches to Sheff Utd & Burnley. It may only take a couple more bad decisions by officials, eg a Boly-esque red card in the Burnley match, to put us down. Standing up to these decisions and getting attention on them is absolutely consistent with trying to stay up.

You bring up PSR but a) we only broke it due to the timing of the sale of Johnson and b) we avoided relegation by finishing above Everton & Leicester, both of whom we now know broke PSR themselves in a more egregious way. If we hadn't spent extra we would most likely be in the Championship now, feeling sorry for ourselves when others had broken the rules.

How will this stop us getting bad decisions?

Because of the extra attention and scrutiny. Now they know if they screw us over the media will be all over it in a way they never were before. That's usually how things work when you have greater scrutiny where behaviour was wrong - the behaviour improves.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

This isn’t going to end well. We will get the book thrown at us for this.

I honestly don't care what they throw at us Ozzy mate.

I have been fairly quiet on this issue because I wanted to have a good think about it.

I have now come to the conclusion that I am proud of my club for doing what they are doing and for taking a stance.

Other clubs , fans and pundits etc can say what they like I honestly couldn't give a toss.

But we are the ones who are standing up to the 'school bully' and if others want to hide behind their sofas in fear then shame on them.

Who is the school bully? We've had some bad decisions but there's no-one out to get us (or at least there wasn't!)

I just don't see what we're hoping to achieve? Get all the refs sacked? The refs are poor but what is the solution?

What is the alternative?

To stay quiet and to do nothing, just roll over like a soppy old dog, give a V for vivtory sign and say yeah peace man.

Sorry Wassy but if you want to stay quiet then you become part of the problem.

What is "the problem"? S**t refereeing decisions? 

Best case scenario, what are you hoping we achieve?

Why do you keep asking me what we are hoping to achieve?

I cannot answer that, I am just proud that we have took the bull by the horns and that we are taking a stance.

Not sure if you have been living in North Korea for the last 8 months but we have been getting robbed consistently.

A bloke has invested about half a billion pounds into a project and if he thinks he is being wronged then fair play to him for saying so.

Out of interest if someone robbed your house would you just laugh it off and say oh well what will I hope to achieve by reporting it.

[wassy04]

I honestly don't care what they throw at us Ozzy mate.

I have been fairly quiet on this issue because I wanted to have a good think about it.

I have now come to the conclusion that I am proud of my club for doing what they are doing and for taking a stance.

Other clubs , fans and pundits etc can say what they like I honestly couldn't give a toss.

But we are the ones who are standing up to the 'school bully' and if others want to hide behind their sofas in fear then shame on them.

Who is the school bully? We've had some bad decisions but there's no-one out to get us (or at least there wasn't!)

I just don't see what we're hoping to achieve? Get all the refs sacked? The refs are poor but what is the solution?

What is the alternative?

To stay quiet and to do nothing, just roll over like a soppy old dog, give a V for vivtory sign and say yeah peace man.

Sorry Wassy but if you want to stay quiet then you become part of the problem.

What is "the problem"? S**t refereeing decisions? 

Best case scenario, what are you hoping we achieve?

Why do you keep asking me what we are hoping to achieve?

I cannot answer that, I am just proud that we have took the bull by the horns and that we are taking a stance.

Not sure if you have been living in North Korea for the last 8 months but we have been getting robbed consistently.

A bloke has invested about half a billion pounds into a project and if he thinks he is being wronged then fair play to him for saying so.

Out of interest if someone robbed your house would you just laugh it off and say oh well what will I hope to achieve by reporting it.

Well generally you would expect your stuff back. So are you suggesting we're hoping to get all the games replayed where we've been wronged? 

You're acting like we're the only team that's ever complained about a refereeing decision. Liverpool kicked up a big song and dance about that goal vs Spurs, a significantly worse error. Were you proud of them too?

I just don't get what the point of all this is. Getting sick of people saying how we're taking on the establishment, as if we're doing something righteous charge to destroy the Premier League. 

We've had bad decisions, it's just bad luck, there is no conspiracy against us. At best we can hope to see a few refs sacked, not going to get those decisions back though is it.

[Simon]

No but making an example of referees in this instance will shake the remaining ones up surely.

If people are losing their jobs over incompetence you can bet levels of performance / professionalism will increase overnight.

[wassy04]

No but making an example of referees in this instance will shake the remaining ones up surely.

If people are losing their jobs over incompetence you can bet levels of performance / professionalism will increase overnight.

Surely they'd just be under even more pressure and therefore more likely to make mistakes?

I'm sure they're already trying pretty hard to get decisions right.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

You're acting like we're the only team that's ever complained about a refereeing decision. Liverpool kicked up a big song and dance about that goal vs Spurs, a significantly worse error. Were you proud of them too?

I just don't get what the point of all this is. Getting sick of people saying how we're taking on the establishment, as if we're doing something righteous charge to destroy the Premier League. 

We've had bad decisions, it's just bad luck, there is no conspiracy against us. At best we can hope to see a few refs sacked, not going to get those decisions back though is it.

Thank you. Common sense from someone.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

You're acting like we're the only team that's ever complained about a refereeing decision. Liverpool kicked up a big song and dance about that goal vs Spurs, a significantly worse error. Were you proud of them too?

I just don't get what the point of all this is. Getting sick of people saying how we're taking on the establishment, as if we're doing something righteous charge to destroy the Premier League. 

We've had bad decisions, it's just bad luck, there is no conspiracy against us. At best we can hope to see a few refs sacked, not going to get those decisions back though is it.

Thank you. Common sense from someone.

Lets at least keep it real.

Who has said that we are taking on the establishment?

I certainly never have so we can put that rubbish to bed straight away.

Perhaps you two would both feel differently if it was your half a billion that had been invested instead of somebody elses.

There is a lot at stake here, perhaps more than some people realise.