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(19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Redgirl Wrote: I get it Sniffer, doesn't mean I have to like it. I just wish it had worked for Steve, we will never see another manager so connected with the fans at the club again!
I wish it had worked too Redgirl I really do and I sincerely mean that.
Sadly it's not the case and everything unfortunately comes to an end.
I get it that he's connected with the fans and all that but for me results and points are more important.
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(05-12-2023, 01:23 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Not lucky at all, he identified Cooper, interviewed Cooper and offered Cooper the job.
Fact.
By the way if you don't like me or this forum then you can leave, nobody is keeping you here.
Plenty of people disagree with me on here but they offer good constructive debate to back it up.
Unlike you with your provocative one liners.
(19-12-2023, 12:06 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Redgirl Wrote: I get it Sniffer, doesn't mean I have to like it. I just wish it had worked for Steve, we will never see another manager so connected with the fans at the club again!
I wish it had worked too Redgirl I really do and I sincerely mean that.
Sadly it's not the case and everything unfortunately comes to an end.
I get it that he's connected with the fans and all that but for me results and points are more important.
I agree with this. Nuno just seems very, very uninspiring. I hope i'm wrong Snifferman
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(19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:56 AM)Marco Polo Wrote: I see the font question EM propaganda is in full swing on here.
I’ll come back and say I told you so when we go down
If it works, I promise I’ll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. But this feels like a cheap solution
How can you say I told you so when right now it looks like we're going down with Cooper? I don't get that at all.
It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words
None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you? Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?
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I have loved the last 2 years with Cooper, but think it's time for a change. I think Nuno is a good appointment. So glad we can move on, and if it happens I'm more confident in the outcome for this season.
EM has been hugely supportive of Cooper.
I think Cooper leaving now (rather than after a relegation) is better for him and his legacy.
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(19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Redgirl Wrote: I get it Sniffer, doesn't mean I have to like it. I just wish it had worked for Steve, we will never see another manager so connected with the fans at the club again!
Not necessarily disagreeing but never is a long time. We once had a certain Mr Clough and Taylor. Who’d have thought anyone would come as close to them in terms of connection.
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(19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:56 AM)Marco Polo Wrote: I see the font question EM propaganda is in full swing on here.
I’ll come back and say I told you so when we go down
If it works, I promise I’ll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. But this feels like a cheap solution
How can you say I told you so when right now it looks like we're going down with Cooper? I don't get that at all.
It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words
None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you? Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?
you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so
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(19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:56 AM)Marco Polo Wrote: I see the font question EM propaganda is in full swing on here.
I’ll come back and say I told you so when we go down
If it works, I promise I’ll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. But this feels like a cheap solution
How can you say I told you so when right now it looks like we're going down with Cooper? I don't get that at all.
It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you? Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?
you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so
No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it :  :
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(19-12-2023, 11:57 AM)JWJW Wrote: If Cooper is sacked today then we all will say thank you for what you did......there was some great times and great memories.
Sadly, not good enough to cut it in the PL.........but there are lots of managers like that. So thanks and farewell.
Adios
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Disrespectful. Really is after what he’s done for this club.
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(19-12-2023, 12:35 PM)Forest1970 Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 11:59 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: How can you say I told you so when right now it looks like we're going down with Cooper? I don't get that at all.
It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you? Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?
you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so
No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it : :
Simples.
I’ll be back when we’re in the championship and ask you how simple it is.
No one can question the money he’s put in. But from what everyone says it’s absolute chaos. Just saying we’re back to the revolving door of managers now. Hope you’re ready for it
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(19-12-2023, 12:46 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:35 PM)Forest1970 Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote: (19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you? Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?
you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so
No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it : :
Simples.
I’ll be back when we’re in the championship and ask you how simple it is.
No one can question the money he’s put in. But from what everyone says it’s absolute chaos. Just saying we’re back to the revolving door of managers now. Hope you’re ready for it
I think you are being seriously disrespectful to EM. EM has put a fortune into our club, not Cooper. Cooper did very well in the past, he isn't now. EM rewarded Cooper with loyalty last season when we were shambolic, it went well. Clearly EM thinks this year is different and that we should at the very least be making some progress - hard to disagree. I don't understand your blindness. Cooper is currently very well on track to get us relegated. There will be no I told you sos if we get relegated with a new manager, because of our current form and no magic balls that will catagorically say whether Coops keeps us up or not.
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(19-12-2023, 12:44 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: Disrespectful. Really is after what he’s done for this club.
To be fair you disrespect EM and he's done just as much for the club has Cooper plus he's half a billion pounds lighter too.
Respect works both ways. Why haven't you ever given EM any respect for hiring Cooper in the first place? We didn't win Cooper in a raffle you know. He was selected, interviewed and given the job by guess who? Yes you guessed it EM.
Why can't we enjoy both EM and Steve?
Why does it always have to be one or the other?
They couldn't have achieved what they did without one another.
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