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(16-12-2023, 12:59 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Not sure who does any better with these players…
There are a lot of players who have been brought to the club at great cost.
But the only ones currently playing like they want to be here are the likes of Yates Williams Toffolo and Murillo.
Somebody needs to try to get these expensive wasters to perform. We are however undoubtedly limited on choice up front.
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Expensive wasters...........
Or do you mean the Coach and Coaching staff are clueless about how to utilise the players ?????? How to coach tactics to win games ??????
In due course - we shall see if its the players or its the Coach and his coaching staff.
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I get the distinct feeling that there are two camps amongst the players, with no evidence to support it. The "We love Cooper" side that started the last 2 games and the we don't want to play for this manager. The likes of Sangare, Worral, Dennis( is that why he was frozen out, I would like him in the team over Wood who again didn't touch the ball last night) and to a lesser extent Dominguez , Montiel spring to mind (and maybe Danillo) Why does Cooper have these loanees and they never see the light of day, Santos, Bade etc? Is it because he didn't want them and tries to make a point out of spite? After a promising pre season what has happened to Aguilera? Is he another who won't toe the Cooper line?
I also get the feeling , and again with nothing to back it up, that if Cooper feels that you have slighted him, no matter how good a player you are, you are out.
New manager and new broom required.
He will have his work cut out.
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(16-12-2023, 08:05 AM)Floridared Wrote: I get the distinct feeling that there are two camps amongst the players, with no evidence to support it. The "We love Cooper" side that started the last 2 games and the we don't want to play for this manager. The likes of Sangare, Worral, Dennis( is that why he was frozen out, I would like him in the team over Wood who again didn't touch the ball last night) and to a lesser extent Dominguez , Montiel spring to mind (and maybe Danillo) Why does Cooper have these loanees and they never see the light of day, Santos, Bade etc? Is it because he didn't want them and tries to make a point out of spite? After a promising pre season what has happened to Aguilera? Is he another who won't toe the Cooper line?
I also get the feeling , and again with nothing to back it up, that if Cooper feels that you have slighted him, no matter how good a player you are, you are out.
New manager and new broom required.
He will have his work cut out.
+1
Exactly............
I believe it stems down to MGW being given "star child" treatment and allowed to do anything he wants on matchday........which mostly leads to him losing the ball and the opposition scoring..........and the fact that Cooper asks players to train in ways that is not suited to them........which makes the lazy in training.......so he does not pick them.
Championship level manager with Championship level coaching staff.......... = where we are now, playing the worst football of any side in the PL and relying on "hoof it up counter attack" and get lucky tactics.
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(16-12-2023, 08:05 AM)Floridared Wrote: I get the distinct feeling that there are two camps amongst the players, with no evidence to support it. The "We love Cooper" side that started the last 2 games and the we don't want to play for this manager. The likes of Sangare, Worral, Dennis( is that why he was frozen out, I would like him in the team over Wood who again didn't touch the ball last night) and to a lesser extent Dominguez , Montiel spring to mind (and maybe Danillo) Why does Cooper have these loanees and they never see the light of day, Santos, Bade etc? Is it because he didn't want them and tries to make a point out of spite? After a promising pre season what has happened to Aguilera? Is he another who won't toe the Cooper line?
I also get the feeling , and again with nothing to back it up, that if Cooper feels that you have slighted him, no matter how good a player you are, you are out.
New manager and new broom required.
He will have his work cut out.
Agree, feels like he soon has cancel half the squad. I would have hard time with my boss if he tried too be BFF all the time but at the same time you se other friends get canceled. You can argue that some players were not good enough but from regular an captain to bomb squad, seems wierd.
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So basically you are saying he should use more / different players?
Isn’t the problem the opposite, that he has used too many in different combinations and doesn’t know his best team and we don’t play a settled team particularly in defence?
All the players in the squad have been tried, mostly without success.
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16-12-2023, 09:40 AM
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This is the end of the road for Cooper now. The further it goe without him being given the elbow the less likely it is that we get a top quality coach to replace him. Let it go much further, let Luton overtake us, and we'll be discussing Sam Alladyce and Dean Smith rather than the likes of Lopetegui.
And if we do drop into the bottom 3, no matter who is the next manager, I just cant see us pulling off an escape, like we did last year. We just dont have the minerals.
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The time has come for me, I thought after wolves would of been the best the time. I hope we are close to agreeing a deal with a new manager/coach.
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(16-12-2023, 10:01 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: The time has come for me, I thought after wolves would of been the best the time. I hope we are close to agreeing a deal with a new manager/coach.
Cordon has spoken with Lopetegui very very very recently.
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(16-12-2023, 10:12 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: (16-12-2023, 10:01 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: The time has come for me, I thought after wolves would of been the best the time. I hope we are close to agreeing a deal with a new manager/coach.
Cordon has spoken with Lopetegui very very very recently.
I hope it was last night, because he needs to go, we will go down if we continue with him.
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It will be sad when he does finally leave. Part of me wants him to stay and turn it around. However, we are sliding into trouble. Unfortunately, for the good of the club, I think we need fresh ideas.
Some of the players have not helped him at all this season. Fulham was an absolute disgrace. Worrall fall out, when we could have done with his leadership in the group. Some of these players will have a lot of work to do to get fans on their side when a change does happen. Sangare, I'm looking at you!
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I will be astounded if Cooper is still here on Monday morning.
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