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We need better central defenders to play higher. Just not fast / good enough. But that Man U side costs the best part of a billion and we were competitive today. Much better than last year. Cooper after the match also honest.
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(26-08-2023, 06:08 PM)Redreg Wrote: (26-08-2023, 06:07 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Taiwo carries on like that and he will be worth north of 60m
More in my eyes hes worth that now
Wonder if a club might put in a cheeky bid this week?
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(26-08-2023, 06:36 PM)Username Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:05 PM)Floridared Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:03 PM)Username Wrote: Don’t rate Turner I’m afraid, seen enough of him now to know that he’s not a top half keeper.
Hope we’re in for another one before the window shuts. Disagree with that, besides a couple of poor distributions I thought he was ok
Doesn’t move his feet quick enough and quite indecisive at times.
It will cost him and us. ok time will be the judge.
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(26-08-2023, 05:55 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:48 PM)Floridared Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:28 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:23 PM)Floridared Wrote: We had a go against Arsenal and didn't get slaughtered, would have been nice to have a go today with 11 players and see where we were. Look at the difference the team is when we do have a go but still look ok at the back. There maybe Joe and Scott downers on here but they are not far wrong are they.
Why would we have a go at them when we were winning?!
Because we looked far more comfortable in possession and going forwards than we did trying to low block all the time. It was inevitable by giving them unto 90% possession at one point that we were going to concede.Trying to shut up shop whilst we are in front it isn't working. The top clubs when they are leading try and score more they just don't sit back and think jobs done, look At Liverpool tanking Bournmouth 9-0 last season and Leicester putting 9 past Southampton... when we were down to 10 players we didn't concede from open play did we? No we looked more like scoring than anything else. But if you are happy with anti football so be it.
Utd literally just sat back when they were winning against 10 men.
We looked a threat every time we went forward on the break, we should've scored a few times and were robbed by some rubbish decisions. I did say "the top clubs" :Laugh: and against 10 men you can afford to.
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Looking so far points wise we are par but and improvement on last year is goal difference. We need to be looking to have a positive goal difference if possible and away to two top teams already and losing by one goal in each is so much better than last year.
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Last year we lost Arsenal and ManUtd away by an aggregate of 8-0
Both games we were utterly outplayed and bewildered start to finish.
Beyond the scoreline there is a vast improvement that anyone can see how we have competed in both games.
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(26-08-2023, 06:52 PM)Paplane Wrote: (26-08-2023, 05:58 PM)Plymouth red Wrote: It's a difficult one to take due to circumstances of the sending off and penalty but I reckon that without them we would probably have lost.
I think going up by two goals so early was always going to have its downsides. 87 minutes plus endless stoppage time meant Man utd had plenty of time while our lads probably could not quite believe it and a lack of experience and know how for that position probably showed. Ultimately I always find 2-0 leads uncomfortable as the opposition is likely to have a go and unless a third is scored or you get to half timewithout conceding then it was going to test us.
Overall, if people cannot see progress from last season then they've forgotten last season. In the four games we played against them, we didn't lay a glove on them. Today, we gave them a shock and with a bit of luck and a bit more experience in the middle on game management then we could have got something.
And well done Taiwo - 7 games on the bounce at this level deserves huge credit
I agree, we look so much more composed than last season. Thats why i think we can be a little more progressive now.
We did go 2-0 up, it's like the team is getting no credit for this! It makes no sense to attack from that point. We always looked dangerous on the break and missed two huge chances to go 3-1. Then at 2-2 we got two shit decisions that cost us a potential point or more who knows.
My anger is starting to subside, just frustrating as well as we did and the ref f*****g us, there was at least a point on the table there. If we take either of those chances to go 3-1 then we may well have been discussing an amazing victory.
Football aye, just pray we beat Burnley in league in a few weeks so the pressure doesn't start to build as performances have looked very promising.
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If today wasn't progress I don't know what is and not even with our best 11
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(26-08-2023, 08:09 PM)ac_vodka Wrote: If today wasn't progress I don't know what is and not even with our best 11
Yep agreed, We get the business we need this upcoming week and injured players back, this season should be much improved
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Percy reporting we're considering a official complaint against Attwell, not that it will accomplish anything. We might get an apology, he might get booted for a match. It won't get us any points back.
It is ridiculous though. Man U shouldn't have beaten Wolves either and only did because the ref and VAR bottled giving a penalty.
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(26-08-2023, 08:58 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Percy reporting we're considering a official complaint against Attwell, not that it will accomplish anything. We might get an apology, he might get booted for a match. It won't get us any points back.
It is ridiculous though. Man U shouldn't have beaten Wolves either and only did because the ref and VAR bottled giving a penalty.
Cue a half arsed apology and "we will look into it"
Won't get us the point(s) back! Or my prediction points
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(26-08-2023, 08:58 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Percy reporting we're considering a official complaint against Attwell, not that it will accomplish anything. We might get an apology, he might get booted for a match. It won't get us any points back.
It is ridiculous though. Man U shouldn't have beaten Wolves either and only did because the ref and VAR bottled giving a penalty.
Both decisions were exactly what VAR is meant to be for. I just don't understand how they could've accepted Bruno was going to get to the ball before Turner and defender.
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