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(16-04-2023, 08:59 PM)Username Wrote: (16-04-2023, 08:55 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Evening all. Havent read through but a quick glance shows comments are mostly reasonable.
A few random thoughts to get it off my chest…
A midfield of Freuler Danilo and a woefully off form MGW against Casemiro, Bruno Fernandez and Erikson was a complete mismatch in every way imaginable.Having said that why none of those 3 could pass the ball 5 yards between them is beyond me.
Brennan looked disinterested and seemed to back out of a few 50-50s
Taiwo ran around and looked as clumsy as ever with his first touch
Felipe and Navas looked a class above anyone else we had. Shows the difference between those who have performed at the highest level vs those who never have and never will. Just cos we payed £10m for someone doesn’t mean they are even close to that level.
We tried hard for 60 mins but the lack of quality going forward was sad to see because Utd were poor at the back, Maguire is a liability
As for the not given pen changing the game. Probably but in all honesty we should have been a goal down inside the first minute.
Thought formation worth a try, dont think tactics far wrong but we don't have the quality to execute 532 properly. Neco tried hard, bet he looks great in the Championship next year. Lodi is much better as full back than wing back.
Subs anonymous, those crying out for Surridge, he aint a PL level striker. I hope nobody is saying we should have brought on x or y and that would have changed it because it really wouldn’t.
If we go down and I am 90% certain we will, it is because of results vs Bournemouth and Everton, not taking chances vs Chelsea and Wolves, not playing for a draw vs Newcastle and of course the away form. It wasn’t because of today.
Would a different manager have changed any of the above? No idea but I remain Cooper in.
I don’t agree about Navas, I think he is the worst keeper we’ve had for some time.
Can’t kick
Scared to come off his line
Often pushes shots back into play
I agree to a certain extent that his impact hasnt been at the level of the fanfare he seemed to get when he arrived but he's not been bad. He's conceding 2 or 3 goals a game but Hendo was conceding 4 or 5 at one stage this season. Even so though, Hendo comes back in for me when he's fit.
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Navas was outstanding today and the difference between 2-0 and 6-0!
Filipe was our best defender and midfielder and probably best striker!
One thing that we did was leave players up the pitch which is admirable but gave Utd too much room in midfield.
The corner defending was absolutely shocking - MGW through instruction let Sancho have the ball 3 times instead of learning his lesson and sorting it after the first time. However, MGW looked at Tate and told him no - then got derision from the crowd when it happened again. Third time Tate bought Brennan back.
Shocking- we are so green on the pitch and I think Tate in particular has been poor in setting up our set pieces (his job I believe).
I really agree that cooper should have got some more experience on his coaching staff this year.
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(16-04-2023, 09:07 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Navas was outstanding today and the difference between 2-0 and 6-0!
Filipe was our best defender and midfielder and probably best striker!
One thing that we did was leave players up the pitch which is admirable but gave Utd too much room in midfield.
The corner defending was absolutely shocking - MGW through instruction let Sancho have the ball 3 times instead of learning his lesson and sorting it after the first time. However, MGW looked at Tate and told him no - then got derision from the crowd when it happened again. Third time Tate bought Brennan back.
Shocking- we are so green on the pitch and I think Tate in particular has been poor in setting up our set pieces (his job I believe).
I really agree that cooper should have got some more experience on his coaching staff this year.
Nah Felipe was rubbish up front. Missed a great chance from a corner. Got to be burying those if you want to be a striker at this level.
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(16-04-2023, 08:59 PM)Username Wrote: I don’t agree about Navas, I think he is the worst keeper we’ve had for some time.
Can’t kick
Scared to come off his line
Often pushes shots back into play
Well I prefer Henderson for what its worth and would still take Samba above either.
Think like Wassy says with many of the others, the PL is a very different league and of course he is used to playing with a much better defence and also used to playing in a team that has more than 30% possession.
Worst for some time? before the above it was Pantillimon so Im going to say he is a tad better than that.
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Samba will have lost it by now. No way would he have remained stable after conceding the amount of goals we have this season.
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(16-04-2023, 09:12 PM)Paplane Wrote: Samba will have lost it by now. No way would he have remained stable after conceding the amount of goals we have this season.
We might have shithoused a few more draws though rather than conceding in injury time.
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(16-04-2023, 09:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (16-04-2023, 08:59 PM)Username Wrote: I don’t agree about Navas, I think he is the worst keeper we’ve had for some time.
Can’t kick
Scared to come off his line
Often pushes shots back into play
Well I prefer Henderson for what its worth and would still take Samba above either.
Think like Wassy says with many of the others, the PL is a very different league and of course he is used to playing with a much better defence and also used to playing in a team that has more than 30% possession.
Worst for some time? before the above it was Pantillimon so Im going to say he is a tad better than that.
Muric was pretty bad too
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(16-04-2023, 09:16 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (16-04-2023, 09:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (16-04-2023, 08:59 PM)Username Wrote: I don’t agree about Navas, I think he is the worst keeper we’ve had for some time.
Can’t kick
Scared to come off his line
Often pushes shots back into play
Well I prefer Henderson for what its worth and would still take Samba above either.
Think like Wassy says with many of the others, the PL is a very different league and of course he is used to playing with a much better defence and also used to playing in a team that has more than 30% possession.
Worst for some time? before the above it was Pantillimon so Im going to say he is a tad better than that.
Muric was pretty bad too
Muric willbe a Premier League player next year. No I can’t believe it either
However the goalkeeper with the 2nd best record in the Championship? Step forward Ethan Horvarth.
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Paul (Smudge) Smith used to give me nightmares
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(16-04-2023, 08:55 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Evening all. Havent read through but a quick glance shows comments are mostly reasonable.
A few random thoughts to get it off my chest…
A midfield of Freuler Danilo and a woefully off form MGW against Casemiro, Bruno Fernandez and Erikson was a complete mismatch in every way imaginable.Having said that why none of those 3 could pass the ball 5 yards between them is beyond me.
Brennan looked disinterested and seemed to back out of a few 50-50s
Taiwo ran around and looked as clumsy as ever with his first touch
Felipe and Navas looked a class above anyone else we had. Shows the difference between those who have performed at the highest level vs those who never have and never will. Just cos we payed £10m for someone doesn’t mean they are even close to that level.
We tried hard for 60 mins but the lack of quality going forward was sad to see because Utd were poor at the back, Maguire is a liability
As for the not given pen changing the game. Probably but in all honesty we should have been a goal down inside the first minute.
Thought formation worth a try, dont think tactics far wrong but we don't have the quality to execute 532 properly. Neco tried hard, bet he looks great in the Championship next year. Lodi is much better as full back than wing back.
Subs anonymous, those crying out for Surridge, he aint a PL level striker. I hope nobody is saying we should have brought on x or y and that would have changed it because it really wouldn’t.
If we go down and I am 90% certain we will, it is because of results vs Bournemouth and Everton, not taking chances vs Chelsea and Wolves, not playing for a draw vs Newcastle and of course the away form. It wasn’t because of today.
Would a different manager have changed any of the above? No idea but I remain Cooper in. Navas kept the score down. He had his best game yesterday. Looked like some players are beginning to accept it.
Agree with every word of that. It looked like Brennan didn’t fancy it yesterday.
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I've woken up today still fuming about that non penalty. It was just so blatant based on how they've applies the rules this year. We might've still lost but in our situation we just can't be having that kind of luck against us. He could've been sent off too although I don't think he would've been.
Either way after Arsenal got one earlier for a lesser reason I just don't know how they don't give it.
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(17-04-2023, 07:51 AM)wassy04 Wrote: I've woken up today still fuming about that non penalty. It was just so blatant based on how they've applies the rules this year. We might've still lost but in our situation we just can't be having that kind of luck against us. He could've been sent off too although I don't think he would've been.
Either way after Arsenal got one earlier for a lesser reason I just don't know how they don't give it.
Could be that they award them to the bigger teams, I bet if that was the other way round they would have awarded it to Man Utd, it's just the way it is.
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