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Everyone is behind Forest...........and if Cooper picks a good side and we play well against Manure nobody will complain.
Things go wrong when the team sheet comes out and people say "WTF........" and then we play shit again and we lose.....
Hopefully Cooper might be tempted to try something different on Sunday and not the "same same again" ...........if he does pick a good creative side then I will be happy.
However, he does not appear to like creative sides or creative players.......unless they played for England Youth teams.
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(09-04-2023, 05:11 PM)Woan Wrote: Good for you. I've also just said Cooper deserves some of the blame.
If you know the guy on Twitter, then there was no need for the snarky remark. He doesn't just comment on youth football either. The post I quoted was a direct comment about recruitment.
I saw his post about recruitment. So I asked him why did Steve buy Wood, Shelvey and Ayew in January if that is the case. Of course he couldn't offer up a reply.
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(10-04-2023, 02:22 AM)JWJW Wrote: Everyone is behind Forest...........and if Cooper picks a good side and we play well against Manure nobody will complain.
Things go wrong when the team sheet comes out and people say "WTF........" and then we play S**t again and we lose.....
Hopefully Cooper might be tempted to try something different on Sunday and not the "same same again" ...........if he does pick a good creative side then I will be happy.
However, he does not appear to like creative sides or creative players.......unless they played for England Youth teams.
Not having a pop at you here JW, just debate............
What seems to be being overlooked just lately is the fact that most of our creativity is currently out injured, with the exception of Danilo, who has started the last couple of games and Surridge, who in all fairness, I do not know what the lad has got to do to start a game! He played Kouyate for a bit of creativity but that only lasted 30 minutes against Villa.
But after that, who else has he got that can be creative? Scarpa? Out injured! Yates? Out injured! Lingard? We haven't seen anything to shout about and I think his head has gone TBH, hence why he isnt in matchday squads. Shelvey does have a creative side to him and can ping some lovely passes around the pitch. Sadly, he is too hot headed and is massively error prone in dangerous areas.
My biggest gripe about Cooper are his substitutions. Sometimes, they make sense i.e. taking Worrall off so we could change formation, I get that. Bringing on Ayew to replace Danilo over Surridge? I don't get.
On Saturday, I felt we were the better side against Villa in the first half. We showed more attacking intent than them and were holding our own against a massively improved side, pushing for a top 6 spot. We did show some creativity, especially through Danilo, right up to the point we did something stupid (again), conceded the first goal, and then panic set in and we reverted back to just lumping the ball away, often completely by passing our midfield, who were all back defending.
So I ask the question, in all sincerity, can we afford to retain our minimal creative sparks once we concede a goal? Should we shore up our defence by bringing on an older, more experienced midfielder? Do we stick with what we started with and go again? Just remember that the squad Cooper has got to work with is now down to the bare bones due to the ridiculous amount of injuries. I don't honestly think even Pep or any other manager would be able to do more than what Cooper is doing right now, with the resources available. So when we look at the team sheet and go "Oh shit!", stop and remember that we don't have that many players left that are fully fit and ready to go.
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Genuine question here before I get accused of being anti Cooper.
We have taken just 3 points from the last 27 and we have games against Man Utd and Liverpool coming up so it could possibly be 3 points from a possible 33.
Anyone know what the current record is or is Steve on the verge of making a bit of unwanted history?
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If clubs are turning Lester down, then we need to face facts, noone is going to come here while were in the same position,
And cooper will be gone in the summer for not meeting targets.
For example. Staying up!!
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(10-04-2023, 09:01 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Genuine question here before I get accused of being anti Cooper.
We have taken just 3 points from the last 27 and we have games against Man Utd and Liverpool coming up so it could possibly be 3 points from a possible 33.
Anyone know what the current record is or is Steve on the verge of making a bit of unwanted history?
Teams at the bottom go on bad runs. Some short memories, when we were on our good run in January people talking about Cooper as a future England manager. That we are currently on a bad run and often playing poorly I am not disagreeing with.
As for records
Norwich took 5 points from their last 15 games last season
The sheep 3 points from last 15 in their famous season
We have a way to go before we are that bad.
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(10-04-2023, 09:40 AM)northeastred Wrote: If clubs are turning Lester down, then we need to face facts, noone is going to come here while were in the same position,
And cooper will be gone in the summer for not meeting targets.
For example. Staying up!!
And your point is?
My guess is you are correct, EM neither likes losers or losing face and he will go in the summer. But right now there is no alternative so our only chance is to get behind the bloke rather than blame him for everything from Shelvey’s pass to the physios not doing their jobs.
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(10-04-2023, 09:01 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Genuine question here before I get accused of being anti Cooper.
We have taken just 3 points from the last 27 and we have games against Man Utd and Liverpool coming up so it could possibly be 3 points from a possible 33.
Anyone know what the current record is or is Steve on the verge of making a bit of unwanted history?
I personally don't know what the record is but by current form he should be long gone and then perhaps should put Brazil in charge till the end of the season then IF we do go down get a permanent manager in. At the moment all whats happening is fans are turning against everyone which isn't good for anyone. All credit to EM for showing loyalty but its getting close for the time to call it quits on SC unfortunately.
On the flip side this is the first time Cooper has managed in the Premiership and the big man knows it and knows its a harder job than first thought and he realises its going to take a season or two longer than expected to get established.
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Let’s be clear about one thing I am sure Mr Marinakas has been phoning all around the world these last couple of weeks seeing which managers would be willing to join us and if he had got the right answer one of them would of been here by now or maybe they are on their way
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(10-04-2023, 09:50 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (10-04-2023, 09:01 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Genuine question here before I get accused of being anti Cooper.
We have taken just 3 points from the last 27 and we have games against Man Utd and Liverpool coming up so it could possibly be 3 points from a possible 33.
Anyone know what the current record is or is Steve on the verge of making a bit of unwanted history?
Teams at the bottom go on bad runs. Some short memories, when we were on our good run in January people talking about Cooper as a future England manager. That we are currently on a bad run and often playing poorly I am not disagreeing with.
As for records
Norwich took 5 points from their last 15 games last season
The sheep 3 points from last 15 in their famous season
We have a way to go before we are that bad.
No I didn't mean that SM.
I meant a Forest record not the PL one.
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We went 19 games without a win in our last relegation year 98/99. Kind of what happens when the owners sell your best forward before the start of the season and your star player then goes on strike.
We then hired big Ron who managed 1 win in 12 before inexplicably winning the last 3 games when we were already relegated.
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(10-04-2023, 10:08 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: We went 19 games without a win in our last relegation year 98/99. Kind of what happens when the owners sell your best forward before the start of the season and your star player then goes on strike.
Can't blame Steve for that one.
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