Stevie Cooper
(03-04-2023, 09:04 AM)nffc93 Wrote: I'm firmly in the stick camp. If we go down we go down together and pray MGW and Brennan are willing to give us another season with Coops at the helm. Players will go but we should still have a good enough squad to bounce back and be stronger for it with the nucleolus of a good squad better equipped at staying up.

Sensible ^

But would Steve be willing to stay?

I am not convinced he would.
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(03-04-2023, 09:04 AM)nffc93 Wrote: I'm firmly in the stick camp. If we go down we go down together and pray MGW and Brennan are willing to give us another season with Coops at the helm. Players will go but we should still have a good enough squad to bounce back and be stronger for it with the nucleolus of a good squad better equipped at staying up.

Think Brennan would go but would MGW be more inclined to stay with Cooper than without? 

Also, another facet in Cooper leaving is his next team will definitely come raiding us in the championship next season.
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Why does everyone take it for granted that Steve will stay if we get relegated?

There is no loyalty in football, forget the songs and the fist pumps, if Steve gets offered something he considers better for himself then he will be off.
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Hmmm.

“Marinakis was disappointed with the substitutions made in the later stages of the game — an opinion he shared with Cooper during a post-match debrief with his head coach, who will be aware of the ever more pressing need to address Forest’s dismal away form, starting when they visit another of their relegation rivals, Leeds United, on Tuesday. That game now takes on increasing importance — defeat would see his position cast into serious doubt once more.”
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Yes we already know that SM.
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(03-04-2023, 09:24 AM)wassy04 Wrote:
(03-04-2023, 09:04 AM)nffc93 Wrote: I'm firmly in the stick camp. If we go down we go down together and pray MGW and Brennan are willing to give us another season with Coops at the helm. Players will go but we should still have a good enough squad to bounce back and be stronger for it with the nucleolus of a good squad better equipped at staying up.

Think Brennan would go but would MGW be more inclined to stay with Cooper than without? 

Also, another facet in Cooper leaving is his next team will definitely come raiding us in the championship next season.

The reality is everyone would be up for sale and we could afford to keep neither.
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(03-04-2023, 09:33 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Hmmm.

“Marinakis was disappointed with the substitutions made in the later stages of the game — an opinion he shared with Cooper during a post-match debrief with his head coach, who will be aware of the ever more pressing need to address Forest’s dismal away form, starting when they visit another of their relegation rivals, Leeds United, on Tuesday. That game now takes on increasing importance — defeat would see his position cast into serious doubt once more.”

Interfering with managers is never good, however good or bad they are doing. Remember the vitriol directed at Fawaz for this.

It really feels like it could get bad quick if we don't win tomorrow.
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(03-04-2023, 09:42 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Yes we already know that SM.

Call me old fashioned but that aint EM’s job.

Many people who were there on Saturday like me thought Cooper had his tactics spot on.
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I don't think there is any owner of a football club who doesn't speak with his coach is there?
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(03-04-2023, 09:46 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I don't think there is any owner of a football club who doesn't speak with his coach is there?

I don't think there are many that go into the changing room and shout at the players though.
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Wassy, it's his club and money so if this is what he wants to do so be it! I think I would do the same if I was the owner to be honest as football is such an emotional roller coaster for all involved. Lets hope we start to get results soon but its a tough ask as we seemed have slept walked into this situation by not being proactive some time back, many on here could see this but the powers that be (SC and the coaching staff) have been a little to laid back to seek a positive reaction and thought we had more time, not the case I am afraid.
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(03-04-2023, 09:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:
(03-04-2023, 09:46 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I don't think there is any owner of a football club who doesn't speak with his coach is there?

I don't think there are many that go into the changing room and shout at the players though.

There's been nothing, nowhere what says he shouted at players.. just that he spoke and said he was not happy with how things went. Many owners speak to players and coaches, ether be it concerns or just a friendly chat, they don't just sit in offices writing checks.. this agenda we have against the owners is mental, look at it this way

Cooper and evangelos both got us promoted

Take away cooper and just have evangelos. You have the money, but not the coach who got us up,

Take away evangelos, you have cooper with a owner with money working on a tight budget in the championship, floating around mid table,

Infant if evangelos was not here with his money cooper would of not even entertained the idea of coming here, one of the reasons cooper left Swansea was because he did not have a transfer fund backing, they were skint

I want noone to be sacked, I want coops to turn it around, but if he leaves he leaves, it can't be helped and it's not down to us sadly..
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