Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I think that is a fair point ^^

[nffc93]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

I think he deserves that chance personally.

[Forest1970]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

I think he deserves that chance personally.

Correct nffc93. As Sniffer has said in the past we were never really supposed to be promoted when we did then really all should be forgiven when we went into a bit of a panic to try and get players good enough to play in the Premiership and I do believe they will click and gel together sooner rather than later.

The trouble is when people need to keep blaming individuals instead of the whole team because the last time I looked football is a team sport and once the players are on the pitch its upto them to do their jobs to the best of their ability. At least JWJW can't keep blaming Johnson for losing now but looks like jumping to Cooper to blame and yes to some extent he should take the blame but then so should the whole team who should take responsibility.

[Paplane]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

I think he deserves that chance personally.

Correct nffc93. As Sniffer has said in the past we were never really supposed to be promoted when we did then really all should be forgiven when we went into a bit of a panic to try and get players good enough to play in the Premiership and I do believe they will click and gel together sooner rather than later.

The trouble is when people need to keep blaming individuals instead of the whole team because the last time I looked football is a team sport and once the players are on the pitch its upto them to do their jobs to the best of their ability. At least JWJW can't keep blaming Johnson for losing now but looks like jumping to Cooper to blame and yes to some extent he should take the blame but then so should the whole team who should take responsibility.

Ok, I'd argue the whole team is peforming well below par. Its much less than the sum of it's parts. So why is that and how is it changed?

[Username]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

I think he deserves that chance personally.

Correct nffc93. As Sniffer has said in the past we were never really supposed to be promoted when we did then really all should be forgiven when we went into a bit of a panic to try and get players good enough to play in the Premiership and I do believe they will click and gel together sooner rather than later.

The trouble is when people need to keep blaming individuals instead of the whole team because the last time I looked football is a team sport and once the players are on the pitch its upto them to do their jobs to the best of their ability. At least JWJW can't keep blaming Johnson for losing now but looks like jumping to Cooper to blame and yes to some extent he should take the blame but then so should the whole team who should take responsibility.

So who was responsible for the first seven games of last season?

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

Maybe but if you judge him after 13 games we will never know. You seemed to judge him far earlier by the way.

19 of the current squad were new to the club this season. Only 8 of the current squad have any type of Premier League experience, that includes the over the hill pair of Colback and Cook. Same as with Cooper we have no idea if the majority are good enough.

Other teams seem happy to bring in managers with no Premier League experience too, is it so much better to have spent a few years managing Palermo than managing in the Championship? How do we know who can step up and compete? It may have escaped your attention but Forest have tried pretty well everything in the past including former England managers, former Ligue 1, La Liga managers etc without notable success.

Finally any new manager we bring in will have the same problems to deal with and in my opinion we are far more likely to get the above option of someone from Europe. As Sniffer says I reckon Dyche is unlikely and I dont see either Benitez or Allardyce being successful.
I cannot see any point in change for changes sake.

[Paplane]

It'd hardly be a change for change's sake. Were planted at the foot of the table and bar 1 performance we've looked completely terrible all season. The club have given Cooper every opportunity with players and his contract and we're still shite. The club have every justification to sack him if they wish.

I want him to suceed btw. I like the guy but you cant ignore what's happening on the pitch.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

It'd hardly be a change for change's sake. Were planted at the foot of the table and bar 1 performance we've looked completely terrible all season. The club have given Cooper every opportunity with players and his contract and we're still shite. The club have every justification to sack him if they wish.

I want him to suceed btw. I like the guy but you cant ignore what's happening on the pitch.

What is happening on the pitch Pap is what happens when you have a completely new team the majority of whom have never played at this level before.

[Paplane]

It'd hardly be a change for change's sake. Were planted at the foot of the table and bar 1 performance  we've looked completely terrible all season. The club have given Cooper every opportunity with players and his contract and we're still shite. The club have every justification to sack him if they wish.

I want him to suceed btw. I like the guy but you cant ignore what's happening on the pitch.

What is happening on the pitch Pap is what happens when you have a completely new team the majority of whom have never played at this level before.

And Cooper needs to take his share of the blame for that fact too.

[Paplane]

Hughton got slaughtered by us last year. I bet he'd be doing better with us this season with this group of players. He knew what it took for a side to stay in the prem.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It'd hardly be a change for change's sake. Were planted at the foot of the table and bar 1 performance  we've looked completely terrible all season. The club have given Cooper every opportunity with players and his contract and we're still shite. The club have every justification to sack him if they wish.

I want him to suceed btw. I like the guy but you cant ignore what's happening on the pitch.

What is happening on the pitch Pap is what happens when you have a completely new team the majority of whom have never played at this level before.

When do we stop becoming a new team?

The player's have been here for 3 months.

3 months is a long time for a coach to work with his player's.

Not sure how much longer we can keep trotting out the 'we are a new team' line.

[Forest1970]

Please change that to........we have a very good manager at Championship level...............however the question is can be make the step up and complete with Premier League level managers ?????

I think he deserves that chance personally.

Correct nffc93. As Sniffer has said in the past we were never really supposed to be promoted when we did then really all should be forgiven when we went into a bit of a panic to try and get players good enough to play in the Premiership and I do believe they will click and gel together sooner rather than later.

The trouble is when people need to keep blaming individuals instead of the whole team because the last time I looked football is a team sport and once the players are on the pitch its upto them to do their jobs to the best of their ability. At least JWJW can't keep blaming Johnson for losing now but looks like jumping to Cooper to blame and yes to some extent he should take the blame but then so should the whole team who should take responsibility.

Ok, I'd argue the whole team is peforming well below par. Its much less than the sum of it's parts. So why is that and how is it changed?

Your right Pap some of the team are doing ok but it needs everyone clicking not just the few especially in this league. If we're losing and the players are busting a gut then you can give them breathing space but by some of the games we were losing and some players are just there for the money and Not the club it needs addressing and its not just one person its 4 or 5 of them.