Stevie Cooper
This new sporting director is really bad news.. did all the sackings at Watford..  signed some dross as well.. not one watford fan has a good word to say
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(05-10-2022, 03:38 PM)Paplane Wrote: I hope we don't see any more mention of Marinakis being a hire and fire owner. If he has taken on board advice and decided to stick with Cooper after the state of our season so far then he needs to be treated with a huge amount of respect.

And he did the same with Lamouchi and Hughton remember, both of whom were given time to sort their problems out too.

I've been saying this for ages, his record at Oly is different but at Forest he's been more patient than the majority of fans. Had success at Oly doing the same thing, hopefully he can be swayed to continue to be patient again.
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(05-10-2022, 01:44 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 01:32 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 01:28 PM)nffc93 Wrote: Jordan's latest comments on TalkSport suggesting we are holding talks in London right now...  Rafa at guess

Rafa's allegedly already turned us down, so perhaps not.

Possibly the worst option of all the managers linked so I really hope not.

Is it just me that is going to struggle to watch in the short term if Cooper is sacked? I just had such an emotional attachment to last year's team, admittedly only really got Brennan and McKenna now left even starting but it's going to be tough to get over this one. 

Maybe it's more of an issue with the industry rather than Forest specifically as we wouldn't be the only team to be considering a change in this scenario although it feels way too early. It's just going to be tough to take. I appreciate the funding that's been provided but in general I feel Steve bailed out the owners, not the other way round. Yet, what do you do, you can't exactly turn against the ownership, even if you disagree with their business practises and approach, they have invested a lot into the club including repeatedly covering excessive losses. Plus, it's not like you just get a change overnight and that could easily be to someone much worse. So therefore it makes sense to continue to be supportive but it feels hard to support a decision like this.

Therefore it just feels easier to just step back a bit if Steve goes. I'm probably talking S**t and will still follow in exactly the same manner but I would feel embarrassed to be a fan again. Which is sad as it felt like we might finally be stepping away from being that embarrassing club that underachieved for 20 years, repeatedly sacking managers and making the same mistakes over and over again. I guess perhaps we are still that team, we just got lucky for half a year.

100% agree
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(05-10-2022, 04:04 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 03:38 PM)Paplane Wrote: I hope we don't see any more mention of Marinakis being a hire and fire owner. If he has taken on board advice and decided to stick with Cooper after the state of our season so far then he needs to be treated with a huge amount of respect.

And he did the same with Lamouchi and Hughton remember, both of whom were given time to sort their problems out too.

I've been saying this for ages, his record at Oly is different but at Forest he's been more patient than the majority of fans. Had success at Oly doing the same thing, hopefully he can be swayed to continue to be patient again.

He's got more patience than me Wassy and I've not spent £150m quid on the club this season.
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Danny Murphy saw what I was seeing on Monday night. I know it's Talksport but there's some good points being made.
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I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?
Panic on the streets of Croydon, Derby, Sheffield, Leicestershire.
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(05-10-2022, 04:17 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves Sniff. If we keep losing then he'll be gone.

It this moment I'd just be happy with a decent performance. Just something to give us fans confidence that there's some progress being made.
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(05-10-2022, 04:17 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?

This Watford bloke may well have been brought in to select a new coach if it's true and Dane's gone. Hence Cooper's stay of execution.
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(05-10-2022, 04:17 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?

If it was Dane or the one or two others that was part of the reason he didn't sign in the first place then I don't see why not.
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So has the Watford bloke been bought in to oversee the new manager, or to support Cooper long term. Is his remit player recruitment or manager hiring or both? Who was doing those jobs before?
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(05-10-2022, 04:49 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 04:17 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?

If it was Dane or the one or two others that was part of the reason he didn't sign in the first place then I don't see why not.

This was my first thought to be fair.. alternatively dane could just be the scapegoat.

With Cooper's standing in the game (coach, fa etc..) I do wonder if the Greeks are reluctant to get rid unless it's on their terms (i.e receive compo)
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(05-10-2022, 07:02 PM)willdared Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 04:49 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 04:17 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I wonder if we manage to get a win on Monday and Dane and one or two others are sacked could Steve's contract be extracted from the bin and signed?

If it was Dane or the one or two others that was part of the reason he didn't sign in the first place then I don't see why not.

This was my first thought to be fair.. alternatively dane could just be the scapegoat.

With Cooper's standing in the game (coach, fa etc..) I do wonder if the Greeks are reluctant to get rid unless it's on their terms (i.e receive compo)

Would look a bit silly if Wolves appointed him straight away!
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