Middlesbrough - Nottingham Forest

[Paplane]

Be interested in hearing what Cooper has to say. I think he left the subs too late and brought the wrong ones on.

I suspect if Back wasnt the youngster he is he'd have been dragged off at half time.

All round a bad day in the office for everyone.

We desperaly need Lowe back and a replacement for Spence. If both of those positions aren't filled early in January then its curtains for our play off hopes. We do not need to leave it until January 31st.

[ozzyten10]

Silva our best player second half- some great touches and unlucky with hitting the post. I also don’t think he was swatted off easily - the one near the byline - if he’d had got a toe to it - would have been a pen. Also a pen on Johnson but refs have his card marked - VAR = pen. Zinkernagle chance is just an unacceptable miss.
Middlesbrough better than us first half but not world beaters. We struggled with our ball out as full backs not as good as Lowe and Spence. Colback is limited in that position but he is dogged.
Yates totally at fault for first goal - bloody no look pass but samba nowhere near the position he should have been.
So disappointing.

[Paplane]

Thoughts. Put our first 11 out and we can match most. 3 key players out and we really struggled against a team who played some great stuff at times.

First time Cooper has got his tactics wrong. Playing Back with little to no experience and then out of position as wing back was never going to work. We did look a bit more confident when reshuffled 2nd half though.

Very much agree SM.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Be interested in hearing what Cooper has to say. I think he left the subs too late and brought the wrong ones on.

I suspect if Back wasnt the youngster he is he'd have been dragged off at half time.

All round a bad day in the office for everyone.

We desperaly need Lowe back and a replacement for Spence. If both of those positions aren't filled early in January then its curtains for our play off hopes. We do not need to leave it until January 31st.

Spot on, Pap', as always.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Thoughts. Put our first 11 out and we can match most. 3 key players out and we really struggled against a team who played some great stuff at times.

First time Cooper has got his tactics wrong. Playing Back with little to no experience and then out of position as wing back was never going to work. We did look a bit more confident when reshuffled 2nd half though.

We needed composure in the centre of the park, we didn't seem to have it.

Without the battle hardened Colback in CM - he's no defender.


SA.

[Paplane]

You'd image Spence would have been powering down the wing later on today with his iron lungs. But hey ho.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Silva our best player second half- some great touches and unlucky with hitting the post. I also don’t think he was swatted off easily - the one near the byline - if he’d had got a toe to it - would have been a pen. Also a pen on Johnson but refs have his card marked - VAR = pen. Zinkernagle chance is just an unacceptable miss.
Middlesbrough better than us first half but not world beaters. We struggled with our ball out as full backs not as good as Lowe and Spence. Colback is limited in that position but he is dogged.
Yates totally at fault for first goal - bloody no look pass but samba nowhere near the position he should have been.
So disappointing.

Interesting to hear your viewpoint, Ozzy.

Incisive and welcome summation.

Seems like the traveling 2k Red Fans deserved better.

Sounds like a couple of goals went begging.

I wonder when we're going to get Var consistently in the Championship.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

You'd image Spence would have been powering down the wing later on today with his iron lungs. But hey ho.

Massive miss, Pap'.

He's been one of our players of the season.

Boro' hustled Forest out of it 1st half. But that was largely after the gift of an OG.

The lack of fullbacks shows that Hughton struggled (without any) and Forest today, weren't any better without them. It's something that has dogged Forest all season. When we have them? 'Great.' I hope recruitment are ready to go. We have two potential recalls on our fullbacks, the other is injury prone. We need to bite the bullet on these positions.

They're fundamental, at least, to the way Cooper's Forest play. We seemed unbalanced and sub-par today without them. We got away with it a bit against Hull last weak with '1' fullback. But against a more polished and Wilder Helmed Boro' there was no escape this time. Our luck finally ran out.

Silver lining. A 'lung busting' run up the league has put Forest in a promising position (where we've grabbed victories from defeat on more than one occasion.). A positive is we're only 2 points off 5th. 2 points off the play offs.

And the January window is only days away.

SA.

[Username]

Be interested in hearing what Cooper has to say. I think he left the subs too late and brought the wrong ones on.

I suspect if Back wasnt the youngster he is he'd have been dragged off at half time.

All round a bad day in the office for everyone.

We desperaly need Lowe back and a replacement for Spence. If both of those positions aren't filled early in January then its curtains for our play off hopes. We do not need to leave it until January 31st.

Interesting with Carvalho and Silva both in the fold that Jenkinson wasn’t at least on the bench given how inexperienced Back still is.

[Username]

I’m not gonna join the pile in on Coops.

It was obvious that he would go three at the back with the first choice full backs unavailable.

Colback was always going to be selected at left wing back ahead of Bong.

Back appears to have been his only option at right wing back, despite us having a right back at our disposal earning a sizeable wedge and being fit and available.

The midfield disappeared today. Garner, Yates and Zickernagel were largely anonymous from an attacking perspective and Johnno made a marginally greater contribution.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

To be honest I can see Jenkinson retiring from football, suspect he isnt even training. He has spent his entire career in reserves and on subs benches and seems quite happy to do so whilst earning pot fulls of money. He has apparently cost us over £6M in fees and wages, one of the worst buys in our clubs history.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

I’m not gonna join the pile in on Coops.

It was obvious that he would go three at the back with the first choice full backs unavailable.

Colback was always going to be selected at left wing back ahead of Bong.

Back appears to have been his only option at right wing back, despite us having a right back at our disposal earning a sizeable wedge and being fit and available.

The midfield disappeared today. Garner, Yates and Zickernagel were largely anonymous from an attacking perspective and Johnno made a marginally greater contribution.

He should have gone with a 4 if he was going to play Back. If he wanted to go with a wing back he could have played Garner there, out of position I know but he is the only one available to him that could have done a job. Agree the midfield being anonymous hardly helped.