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(16-09-2021, 08:42 PM)Plymouth red Wrote: (16-09-2021, 08:36 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (16-09-2021, 08:00 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Wilder has categorically said he wants it. He is the best choice - improved every team he went to and although went wrong in the premiership still had his principles
I really like Wilder but does he fit into a longer term strategy based around youth, pathway from academy to first team etc? Or is he another appointment based on previous CV? I know the piece in the Post talks about him being happy to work under Dane and with a younger squad but how long would he be happy to do that? I'm torn over Wilder on the one hand I do really like him, like the football he plays and I think he'd get the best out of this squad in the short term but I just don't know about the long term with him, feels almost like another flavour of the month appointment.
You could argue that 90% of appointments made in this league turn out to be short term appointments.
I know we would all like a manager to come in for 3 or 4 seasons but when does that happen nowadays.
And you could argue that short term is all we can thibk about considering the clubs position
You're right but we want Murphy to start implementing some of this strategy he's keen on.
(16-09-2021, 08:45 PM)audiosmee Wrote: Wilder was perfectly set for Shef Utd- a club man, supporter, local. Why would we think he would have that with Forest? Not the direction we’re aiming at- certainly not ‘true north’
Alan Knill- we’ll have him on the staff tho please
"True North" much more succinctly put than what I wrote. Just doesn't seem to quite fit does he? I'd back him if he does come but just not 100% sure he makes a dream team with Dane et al.
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(16-09-2021, 08:36 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (16-09-2021, 08:00 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Wilder has categorically said he wants it. He is the best choice - improved every team he went to and although went wrong in the premiership still had his principles
I really like Wilder but does he fit into a longer term strategy based around youth, pathway from academy to first team etc? Or is he another appointment based on previous CV? I know the piece in the Post talks about him being happy to work under Dane and with a younger squad but how long would he be happy to do that? I'm torn over Wilder on the one hand I do really like him, like the football he plays and I think he'd get the best out of this squad in the short term but I just don't know about the long term with him, feels almost like another flavour of the month appointment.
Exactly how I feel on Wilder.
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(16-09-2021, 07:40 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (16-09-2021, 07:09 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (16-09-2021, 06:14 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Talking of different appointments, where does the DOF sit in all of this? What does he do?
Is that Gary Brazil?
SA.
No think again SA, think when it all went wrong for Karanka when we made the appointment...
Ah yes.
I remember...
Cosy on a bench.
Self inflicted that was.
We just couldn't let Aitor be, could we?
SA.
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(16-09-2021, 08:00 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Wilder has categorically said he wants it. He is the best choice - improved every team he went to and although went wrong in the premiership still had his principles
:cool:
He knows how to get teams promoted.
With robust. Dynamic. Progressive. Football.
Couldn't accuse him of 'bore' ball.
SA.
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(16-09-2021, 09:06 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (16-09-2021, 07:40 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (16-09-2021, 07:09 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (16-09-2021, 06:14 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Talking of different appointments, where does the DOF sit in all of this? What does he do?
Is that Gary Brazil?
SA.
No think again SA, think when it all went wrong for Karanka when we made the appointment...
Ah yes.
I remember...
Cosy on a bench.
Self inflicted that was.
We just couldn't let Aitor be, could we?
SA.
Still at forest as the DOF, just do not have a clue what he does. It is a crucial role in modern thinking and forward planning of a football club.
Does anyone have any idea what he does as the DOF at forest?
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Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
COYR!
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(16-09-2021, 09:13 PM)BadDog Wrote: Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
Don’t think there’s any doubt about that but if the club doesn’t want him then it’s irrelevant.
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(16-09-2021, 09:13 PM)BadDog Wrote: Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
He is certainly showing intent to try and get the job. He seems very hungry for it. Certainly got support behind him. If it is a straight choice between him and Cooper, I'd pick Wilder all day long.
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(16-09-2021, 09:20 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: (16-09-2021, 09:13 PM)BadDog Wrote: Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
He is certainly showing intent to try and get the job. He seems very hungry for it. Certainly got support behind him. If it is a straight choice between him and Cooper, I'd pick Wilder all day long.
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(16-09-2021, 09:19 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: (16-09-2021, 09:13 PM)BadDog Wrote: Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
Don’t think there’s any doubt about that but if the club doesn’t want him then it’s irrelevant.
I think the compensation might have a say in it.
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(16-09-2021, 09:13 PM)BadDog Wrote: Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand posting about Wilder saying he wants it.
Cooper or Wilder, I'd say we'd be better off with Wilder.
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Wilder aint happening
At least not unless Cooper turns us down.
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