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(14-09-2021, 03:11 PM)TwangandBoots Wrote: Has EM ownership been any better than Fawaz?
OK so theres no pizzagate or ASDA training balls, but he has sold our talent and the club has steadily gone backwards in relation to the starting point in the league.
If he does sell, which I doubt, history will tell a story of a failed Greek ownership. Hardly a legacy, and that is why I believe he is made of sterner stuff.
Good question; on that basis, EM has to come in one place lower than Fawaz and one place higher than Doughty
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(14-09-2021, 03:32 PM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote: (14-09-2021, 03:11 PM)TwangandBoots Wrote: Has EM ownership been any better than Fawaz?
OK so theres no pizzagate or ASDA training balls, but he has sold our talent and the club has steadily gone backwards in relation to the starting point in the league.
If he does sell, which I doubt, history will tell a story of a failed Greek ownership. Hardly a legacy, and that is why I believe he is made of sterner stuff.
Good question; on that basis, EM has to come in one place lower than Fawaz and one place higher than Doughty
So all the off the field stuff counts for nothing then? The clubs being unwilling to deal with us, the fact that we were headed towards administration without a sale as Fawaz ran out of money. The constant HMRC issues? The mass supporter protests? The academy upgrade?
As ever the wider context is ignored, in the last few years in particular the gap between teams with and without parachute payments has widened, largely due to those teams using them more effectively. Making any attempts to breach the top 6 more challenging in itself.
The club was 21st when EM took over after avoiding relegation on the last day. I recognise we are currently 24th however I'm not sure it's entirely fair to condemn this to be our final position and ignore the remaining 40 odd games. So if we finish 21st again we will at worst have stayed the same as the Fawaz time.
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(14-09-2021, 03:43 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (14-09-2021, 03:32 PM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote: (14-09-2021, 03:11 PM)TwangandBoots Wrote: Has EM ownership been any better than Fawaz?
OK so theres no pizzagate or ASDA training balls, but he has sold our talent and the club has steadily gone backwards in relation to the starting point in the league.
If he does sell, which I doubt, history will tell a story of a failed Greek ownership. Hardly a legacy, and that is why I believe he is made of sterner stuff.
Good question; on that basis, EM has to come in one place lower than Fawaz and one place higher than Doughty
So all the off the field stuff counts for nothing then? The clubs being unwilling to deal with us, the fact that we were headed towards administration without a sale as Fawaz ran out of money. The constant HMRC issues? The mass supporter protests? The academy upgrade?
As ever the wider context is ignored, in the last few years in particular the gap between teams with and without parachute payments has widened, largely due to those teams using them more effectively. Making any attempts to breach the top 6 more challenging in itself.
The club was 21st when EM took over after avoiding relegation on the last day. I recognise we are currently 24th however I'm not sure it's entirely fair to condemn this to be our final position and ignore the remaining 40 odd games. So if we finish 21st again we will at worst have stayed the same as the Fawaz time.
I'd take 21st in a heartbeat.
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Some people need to read the very first post in the You Decide thread.
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People are seriously questioning EM yeah its not been good but its been 100% better than Fawaz , ok the people he put in place to run the club have not produced on the pitch, now if we were sat with 10 points in the table we would after the big clear out of deadwood we would be praising them . Sorry CH is massively under acheiving with this squad his tactics and strategy/philosophy on how the game is now played are the problem . His biggest downfall is backing everyone he employs.
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(14-09-2021, 05:14 PM)Redreg Wrote: People are seriously questioning EM yeah its not been good but its been 100% better than Fawaz , ok the people he put in place to run the club have not produced on the pitch, now if we were sat with 10 points in the table we would after the big clear out of deadwood we would be praising them . Sorry CH is massively under acheiving with this squad his tactics and strategy/philosophy on how the game is now played are the problem . His biggest downfall is backing everyone he employs.
If we were higher up the table we would be praising them for clearing out the dead wood that they brought in in the first place?
I get your point and I do applaud them for belatedly learning some lessons and changing direction which is one reason I don't see them packing up any time soon.
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They will pack up when the time and when the offer is right.
He ain't gonna give the club away for free. Lets see what happens and if the Yanks come back again.
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(14-09-2021, 03:43 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (14-09-2021, 03:32 PM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote: (14-09-2021, 03:11 PM)TwangandBoots Wrote: Has EM ownership been any better than Fawaz?
OK so theres no pizzagate or ASDA training balls, but he has sold our talent and the club has steadily gone backwards in relation to the starting point in the league.
If he does sell, which I doubt, history will tell a story of a failed Greek ownership. Hardly a legacy, and that is why I believe he is made of sterner stuff.
Good question; on that basis, EM has to come in one place lower than Fawaz and one place higher than Doughty
So all the off the field stuff counts for nothing then? The clubs being unwilling to deal with us, the fact that we were headed towards administration without a sale as Fawaz ran out of money. The constant HMRC issues? The mass supporter protests? The academy upgrade?
As ever the wider context is ignored, in the last few years in particular the gap between teams with and without parachute payments has widened, largely due to those teams using them more effectively. Making any attempts to breach the top 6 more challenging in itself.
The club was 21st when EM took over after avoiding relegation on the last day. I recognise we are currently 24th however I'm not sure it's entirely fair to condemn this to be our final position and ignore the remaining 40 odd games. So if we finish 21st again we will at worst have stayed the same as the Fawaz time.
It was a vain attempt at sarcasm.
I completely agree with your first and last paragraphs though.
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(14-09-2021, 05:38 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: They will pack up when the time and when the offer is right.
He ain't gonna give the club away for free. Lets see what happens and if the Yanks come back again.
You mean JJM mate?
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Let’s face it, EM has no idea how to take us out of this league, we’re going nowhere (positive) with solely him at the reins.
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Knowing our luck EM will go and get investment from Fawaz…..
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Sorry if i have missed this but i have been at work all day. Am i being paranoid that i have received an email telling there is a 20% sale on everything in the club shop? Are things that bad? Does this have anything to do with these rumours?
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