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(13-09-2021, 03:29 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (13-09-2021, 02:52 PM)Widdow Wrote: (13-09-2021, 02:37 PM)Madforit Wrote: (13-09-2021, 01:18 PM)Tricky Wrote: If any of this is true, then we can all kiss goodbye to the brand new shiny stand we have been looking forward to. It would explain why everything has ground to a halt with regards to the redevelopment.
What shiny new stand, please as if it was ever going to happen.
The current stands are going to rack and ruin. Nothing stopping them sorting that out
The 'old lady' has been rusting and neglected for some time.
They could try cleaning the seats for the customers, at least.
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I was sat in there yesterday, they could try cleaning the bogs as well :sick:
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(13-09-2021, 04:29 PM)Madforit Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:29 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: (13-09-2021, 02:52 PM)Widdow Wrote: (13-09-2021, 02:37 PM)Madforit Wrote: (13-09-2021, 01:18 PM)Tricky Wrote: If any of this is true, then we can all kiss goodbye to the brand new shiny stand we have been looking forward to. It would explain why everything has ground to a halt with regards to the redevelopment.
What shiny new stand, please as if it was ever going to happen.
The current stands are going to rack and ruin. Nothing stopping them sorting that out
The 'old lady' has been rusting and neglected for some time.
They could try cleaning the seats for the customers, at least.
SA.
I was sat in there yesterday, they could try cleaning the bogs as well :sick:
My gawd...
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(13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.
Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
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(13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.
Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
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(13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.
Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. I seriously hope i'm wrong though
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13-09-2021, 05:27 PM
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(13-09-2021, 05:10 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.
Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. I seriously hope i'm wrong though
I'd say that's actually a bit of a leap based on what Sniffer has said in the EM thread. Two weeks ago people (including Sniffer) were saying there was money to make signings if we wanted to use it and now a fortnight later we're skint? Also why would EM bother putting several new backroom staff members in position if he was just gonna cut funding a month or two later? Don't think that makes much sense.
Dunno why Hughton has kept his job, I expect internal politics at the club are far higher up on the likely reasons than cash flow though.
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(13-09-2021, 05:27 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:10 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. I seriously hope i'm wrong though
I'd say that's actually a bit of a leap based on what Sniffer has said in the EM thread. Two weeks ago people (including Sniffer) were saying there was money to make signings if we wanted to use it and now a fortnight later we're skint? Also why would EM bother putting several new backroom staff members in position if he was just gonna cut funding a month or two later? Don't think that makes much sense.
Dunno why Hughton has kept his job, I expect internal politics at the club are far higher up on the likely reasons than cash flow though.
There was money to spend, we had 4.5m lined up for maja,
The Asian guy from the Belgium league would of cost at least 3m
Then nzola would of been 4m plus.. yes we only tried for them, but bids were mad so money was there.. not to forget maja was here but failed the medical, if there was a actual takeover going on then it would of been leaked, stuff like that always gets out.. ether from the domestic side or a abroad side.. I hope its true tho, a good change is needed
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(13-09-2021, 05:34 PM)northeastred Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:27 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:10 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. I seriously hope i'm wrong though
I'd say that's actually a bit of a leap based on what Sniffer has said in the EM thread. Two weeks ago people (including Sniffer) were saying there was money to make signings if we wanted to use it and now a fortnight later we're skint? Also why would EM bother putting several new backroom staff members in position if he was just gonna cut funding a month or two later? Don't think that makes much sense.
Dunno why Hughton has kept his job, I expect internal politics at the club are far higher up on the likely reasons than cash flow though.
There was money to spend, we had 4.5m lined up for maja,
The Asian guy from the Belgium league would of cost at least 3m
Then nzola would of been 4m plus.. yes we only tried for them, but bids were mad so money was there.. not to forget maja was here but failed the medical, if there was a actual takeover going on then it would of been leaked, stuff like that always gets out.. ether from the domestic side or a abroad side.. I hope its true tho, a good change is needed
It makes perfect sense if you think about it. If you decided you was going to sell your house or your car, would you bother spending more money on it if it didnt need to be spent? Paying Hughton and his backroom staff off would be doing just that! It is easier for EM to keep Hughton and co in place so he doesnt have to pay them off. If a potential new owner did come in and wanted to get rid of Hughton and co, it would be the new owner(s) that would have to shell out.
Any money that was available was put aside for new players, which potentially have a resale value and there is the possibility of selling them on and getting some or all of that money back (unless the name is Carvalho but that is another story). paying off a sacked manager is a non returnable payment.
Filling vacant positions inside the club are not the same as playing/coaching staff as they do tend to remain in their jobs irrespective of manager or owner, with the exception of maybe the CEO. Dane MAY, im not saying he was, have been brought in to either negotiate with an American consortium, or was requested to be put in place subject to any potential deal. I don't know, I am just putting ideas out there. Moving Vrentzos back to Athens also makes perfect sense if there was something in it all.
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(13-09-2021, 06:03 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:34 PM)northeastred Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:27 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:10 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. I seriously hope i'm wrong though
I'd say that's actually a bit of a leap based on what Sniffer has said in the EM thread. Two weeks ago people (including Sniffer) were saying there was money to make signings if we wanted to use it and now a fortnight later we're skint? Also why would EM bother putting several new backroom staff members in position if he was just gonna cut funding a month or two later? Don't think that makes much sense.
Dunno why Hughton has kept his job, I expect internal politics at the club are far higher up on the likely reasons than cash flow though.
There was money to spend, we had 4.5m lined up for maja,
The Asian guy from the Belgium league would of cost at least 3m
Then nzola would of been 4m plus.. yes we only tried for them, but bids were mad so money was there.. not to forget maja was here but failed the medical, if there was a actual takeover going on then it would of been leaked, stuff like that always gets out.. ether from the domestic side or a abroad side.. I hope its true tho, a good change is needed
It makes perfect sense if you think about it. If you decided you was going to sell your house or your car, would you bother spending more money on it if it didnt need to be spent? Paying Hughton and his backroom staff off would be doing just that! It is easier for EM to keep Hughton and co in place so he doesnt have to pay them off. If a potential new owner did come in and wanted to get rid of Hughton and co, it would be the new owner(s) that would have to shell out.
Any money that was available was put aside for new players, which potentially have a resale value and there is the possibility of selling them on and getting some or all of that money back (unless the name is Carvalho but that is another story). paying off a sacked manager is a non returnable payment.
Filling vacant positions inside the club are not the same as playing/coaching staff as they do tend to remain in their jobs irrespective of manager or owner, with the exception of maybe the CEO. Dane MAY, im not saying he was, have been brought in to either negotiate with an American consortium, or was requested to be put in place subject to any potential deal. I don't know, I am just putting ideas out there. Moving Vrentzos back to Athens also makes perfect sense if there was something in it all.
Hmm.
Interesting thoughts, Tricky.
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(13-09-2021, 05:10 PM)Tricky Wrote: (13-09-2021, 05:00 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (13-09-2021, 04:55 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: (13-09-2021, 03:58 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.
Still this.
Even if we somehow manage a win?
I was basing it off the feeling that we wouldn't get a win from either of those games and so far that feeling is correct. If he still survives after we lose to Boro I give up.
On the assumption that Sniffs comments are correct on the EM thread, it is highly likely that EM has pulled the plug on funding the club, which means we don't have a pot to piss in, which means we probably can't afford to sack CH and his backroom squad, so it is looking likely he will still be here for sometime to come. ...
I think that may be the silver lining if Forest can't afford to sack him. (Others may disagree.)
As long as Hughton can pick up points and pick up a couple of players in Jan' eg. Striker and a midfield General (a bit like we did last January window) to ease Forest through this Plan B transition.
We've just played game '1' of Hughton's '10' players. The 1st half showed indications of what's possible. But that potential needs turning into points.
Rather sharpish.
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There's a lot of questions being asked about Hoots, and results clearly warrant them.
It would be nice if the club communicated with the fans for once as to their position on the matter.
Even a vote of confidence would be nice.
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I can't believe he is still in the job. It doesn't matter what may or may not be going on with the ownership. We have a bloody clown as a manager who has taken us to our worst start in over 100 years. That alone is stackable. But it's worse... no wins in 12. The lowest scorers in the world.
My god what does he have to do to get sacked.
This is a joke now. We are only going one way with a manager who is more interested in how good the opposition are and how amazing theor manager is. A manager who has a young and fair good squad but doesn't know how to use it. A manager who has no plan b, who makes like for like subs and waits until its too late to make them.
Sack him, sack him now and make this stop as a few have said... 2 wins and we start moving up the table... we won't get those wins with this shirt potato in charge.
Please for the love of God just sack him.
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