(08-09-2021, 12:09 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (08-09-2021, 12:05 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Why would Dane be upset if Vrentzos was ringing around some player's?
To be honest I don't think he did get upset for a minute despite what some might want to portray.
In fact Dane should and he probably did embrace and really appreciate that.
Yes we all know that Vrentzos was far from perfect in his roll of CEO but if Dane thinks that someone with much more experience than himself and with loads more contacts in the game than himself can assist and help him in some deals then where is the problem?
Dane would be a fool to turn down such an offer especially when he's only been in the job for five minutes.
All of that I agree with and hope that is they way they are working and cooperating together.
It's an entire recruitment team. It's all hands on deck from the CEO, Mr. V to Manager, Gary, the guy from Wigan, Scouts etc.
Why wouldn't people at Forest cooperate.
Dane did make the point that everyone has to pull in the same direction.
"If Hughton was sacked he'd be forgotten about by me very quickly. 3rd lowest goal scorers in entire football league last season. Can't think of a game which I've enjoyed of his. Which players has he improved? Look at Sabri with Cash. Who has Hughton done that for?" (He's brought Mighten on, he's played him last year and far more this year, Yates is more rounded, got the best out of Garner which Watford didn't. Hughton has loads of Academy lads in his squad. Nonsense on reputation for not playing youth. No recent Forest manager has played that much youth. Especially in the cup.)
How many managers are remembered apart from Clough? None.
So, what Danny said on Hughton was, in his own words? 'Mostly B*ll*cks.' A carping, passive aggressive figure looking for a story. Always looking for the next shiny thing or next story. 'That's his job.' Try doing your job when you haven't signed any permanent outfield players in a year and have to wait for 'last minute shopping' before you get your players in and you start the season without fullbacks and you've shipped 4 games at a cost of 12 points. He played the youth. They got battered for 12 points and thrown out the cup. It's not rocket science, we don't need Danny to tell us that Garner and Worrall back in the team gets you a point.
'A bit broken.' Hughton cleared up the shattered and broken and 'lauded' Sabri's teaming pile of Mr. V recruitment didn't he? The Sabri experiment has been forgotten very quickly. All the players have been thrown out, expensive players who played stale ball very mediocrely. He gave Sabri far too much credit for improving players and cited one example, Cash. Did he sign him? Putting him at RB wasn't nothing not previously talked about. Cash's initial performances where ropey. (Sabri did put Watson in the 'slow legs' role which came off for him.)
Naturally, I don't agree with Danny on Hughton. At all.
Danny sounds like a scorned ex-girlfriend, 'You promised...'
Most managers who are out of work stay out of work for a while. I'm not surprised given the kicking fans and press give you. If you want football that isn't bland or attritional you have to recruit good players. (Not anything new. Peter Taylor is on record saying that many moons ago.)
You can say that, Danny Boy. Sabri got lucky with Cash at RB, Warburton already knew he had a chance of playing there. Sabri wasn't a genius that discovered something not already known. Sabri got lucky that Sow's two runs in the team provided the fulcrum.
Nobody likes anyone looking over their shoulder doing 'learning walks.' That's the nature of upper management.
I don't think Danny told us much we didn't already know on this forum with the info' we get from Sniff' and others. *Shrugs.
We know they tried and we sit bottom and that we need another Plan B.
SA.
