Stoke City - Nottingham Forest

[Madforit]

Needed a drink before doing this: as always starting with The:-

Positives.
-The away fans, different class. If we ever actually become a decent team then the roofs will be coming off all over the Country.
- We only conceded 1 goal.
- Gardens all over Stoke needed the rain.
-Back and Zink were OK.
-There is no doubt that every player gave 100% effort to the cause...even if its a lost one at present....

Negatives
- We can't pass from A to B, confidence looks shot to bits already.
- CH shook it up with a few changes, but we still looked pretty poor.
- We don't have option to mix it up again.
- 0 shots on target, we are THAT bad.

Even a cocky arrogant sod like Knockaert would be welcome at the moment or no end product merchants like Krovinivic. We look so devoid of confidence.

Being thrown into game like this will invariably raise .

My only argument with this is that CH changed it up. He didn't.

He may have changed personal but the system was the same. The tactics were the same. The subs were the same like for like subs. 

Nothing changed from the previous 3 games.

We could have Messi out there and, with that set up and those tactics, we would still lose.

What would have been a positive sign would have been if he had gone with 1 cdm.

Spot on

[Strawberry Avenger]

Needed a drink before doing this: as always starting with The:-

Positives.
-The away fans, different class. If we ever actually become a decent team then the roofs will be coming off all over the Country.
- We only conceded 1 goal.
- Gardens all over Stoke needed the rain.
-Back and Zink were OK.
-There is no doubt that every player gave 100% effort to the cause...even if its a lost one at present....

Negatives
- We can't pass from A to B, confidence looks shot to bits already.
- CH shook it up with a few changes, but we still looked pretty poor.
- We don't have option to mix it up again.
- 0 shots on target, we are THAT bad.

Even a cocky arrogant sod like Knockaert would be welcome at the moment or no end product merchants like Krovinivic. We look so devoid of confidence.

Being thrown into game like this will invariably raise .

My only argument with this is that CH changed it up. He didn't.

He may have changed personal but the system was the same. The tactics were the same. The subs were the same like for like subs. 

Nothing changed from the previous 3 games.

We could have Messi out there and, with that set up and those tactics, we would still lose.

What would have been a positive sign would have been if he had gone with 1 cdm.

We'd have just been over run and lost by 2 or 3.

SA.

[Uwantlee]

Needed a drink before doing this: as always starting with The:-

Positives.
-The away fans, different class. If we ever actually become a decent team then the roofs will be coming off all over the Country.
- We only conceded 1 goal.
- Gardens all over Stoke needed the rain.
-Back and Zink were OK.
-There is no doubt that every player gave 100% effort to the cause...even if its a lost one at present....

Negatives
- We can't pass from A to B, confidence looks shot to bits already.
- CH shook it up with a few changes, but we still looked pretty poor.
- We don't have option to mix it up again.
- 0 shots on target, we are THAT bad.

Even a cocky arrogant sod like Knockaert would be welcome at the moment or no end product merchants like Krovinivic. We look so devoid of confidence.

Being thrown into game like this will invariably raise .

My only argument with this is that CH changed it up. He didn't.

He may have changed personal but the system was the same. The tactics were the same. The subs were the same like for like subs. 

Nothing changed from the previous 3 games.

We could have Messi out there and, with that set up and those tactics, we would still lose.

What would have been a positive sign would have been if he had gone with 1 cdm.

We'd have just been over run and lost by 2 or 3.

SA.

You never know if you don't try.

We could have been overrun... we were anyway.

We might just have forced them to defend. The way we play the opposition can afford to push men forward because they know we offer very little threat. If we attack them and they are concerned about us as a threat then they will be more cautious in their approach incase they get caught out.

You never know... I mean we never know and never will under CH.

[JWJW]

The manager is to blame.

The tactics are so dire, so predictable that its no wonder we keep losing.

Pass the ball around the back, then pass to Right Back, right back tries to hoof it down the wing. Lose possession. Nearly all the time - be it Christie or Back or whoever at right back.

Watch the throw ins. 90% of the time when we have a throw in we lose possession. 90% of the time the opposition has a throw in they keep possession.

Aimless long ball hoofing......... when you have a midfield with players who can play, why the long ball hoofing ? Just giving the ball away time after time.

CH just keeps doing the same things over and over and over and its so obvious...............

We need a midfielder who can pass forward............ I would love to see Garner and Carv play together.

Yates and Colback and Cafu are all too defensive............when you have 2 of either of them in the middle then we will lose 9 times out of 10.