Evangelos Marinakis And Co
(19-08-2021, 09:45 AM)Paplane Wrote: Karanka has produced the most sophisticated football since EM came in. He should be here now.

Karanka got a hammering.  Warburton took a hammering.  O'Neil took a hammering.  People put the boot into Psycho.

Because 'some fans' can't see past the 'now' history repeats the 'now.'

I didn't want Aitor to leave.  Or Warburton.  Or O'Neil.  (Sabri had lost himself and the dressing.). 

I definitely want Hughton to stay out the remainder of this contract.

But we need to recruit.  His words.

SA.
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(19-08-2021, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: It must be about 2 years ago to the day that we won at Stoke and went top of the league.

If only we could have held onto a point at Barnsley right at the end of the season, who knows what might have been.

Fine lines eh?

All this is easily forgotten though now of course.

Well we can't blame Vrentzos anymore so I suppose that it's EM's turn now.

And what is all this forgive nonsense? Forgive him for what exactly? I certainly have nothing to forgive him for.

I hate to point this out and repeat myself but we still have a DMC pairing
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(19-08-2021, 10:46 AM)GaribaldiRED Wrote:
(19-08-2021, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: It must be about 2 years ago to the day that we won at Stoke and went top of the league.

If only we could have held onto a point at Barnsley right at the end of the season, who knows what might have been.

Fine lines eh?

All this is easily forgotten though now of course.

Well we can't blame Vrentzos anymore so I suppose that it's EM's turn now.

And what is all this forgive nonsense? Forgive him for what exactly? I certainly have nothing to forgive him for.

I hate to point this out and repeat myself but we still have a DMC pairing 

That's recruitment's job.  To find the players to give Hughton options.  As it is, he hasn't any.

SA.
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(19-08-2021, 07:39 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Yes our fans are great aren't they?

EM please sack Warbs - Tick.
EM get Karanka out - Tick
EM Tell Sabri to f**k off - Tick
EM you must get rid of Vrentzos - Tick

Everything you the fans asked for - Tick.

But yes lets blame EM.

Why don't you get your flags and banners out and get yourself down the main stand car park and have your little protest?

Go on I dare you...

So stop deflecting.

I’ve never protested. It’s not my club. 

Going on some kind of Russian roulette saga between the fans and the owner is only going to end up with everyone losing. 

No deflection here.
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(19-08-2021, 12:59 PM)Username Wrote:
(19-08-2021, 07:39 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Yes our fans are great aren't they?

EM please sack Warbs - Tick.
EM get Karanka out - Tick
EM Tell Sabri to f**k off - Tick
EM you must get rid of Vrentzos - Tick

Everything you the fans asked for - Tick.

But yes lets blame EM.

Why don't you get your flags and banners out and get yourself down the main stand car park and have your little protest?

Go on I dare you...

So stop deflecting.

I’ve never protested. It’s not my club. 

Going on some kind of Russian roulette saga between the fans and the owner is only going to end up with everyone losing. 

No deflection here.

Perhaps the owners should make better, more strategic appointments rather than the crap they have brought in.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion - COYR  :)
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(19-08-2021, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: It must be about 2 years ago to the day that we won at Stoke and went top of the league.

If only we could have held onto a point at Barnsley right at the end of the season, who knows what might have been.

Fine lines eh?

All this is easily forgotten though now of course.

Well we can't blame Vrentzos anymore so I suppose that it's EM's turn now.

And what is all this forgive nonsense? Forgive him for what exactly? I certainly have nothing to forgive him for.

Interesting point. 

We went into that final half a season adding the likes of Da Costa and Bong. 

We were short on players in certain positions. 

It was definitely fine lines but we didn’t give ourselves the best chance.
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So Murphy is crap? Syrianos is crap, Brass is crap?

f**k me we really are in trouble.
Panic on the streets of London
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They're very good appointments. As is Hughton.

But you've got people screaming after 3 close games.

I understand the frustration. But hanging Hughton? Might as well hang them all.

They've had 3 months to bring in the players in a difficult market.

The owners clearly have a long term plan and have admitted mistakes. Have the Forest 'some fans' got the stomach for patience?

We can give the new CEO time? But not Hughton? At least Mr. V got players in. The new CEO is struggling to land targets. He's going to learn real quick that the honeymoon at Forest doesn't last very long. Not even if you're a Forest legend.

Forest fans. There's nothing quite like getting what you want, eh?

SA.
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(19-08-2021, 10:51 AM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:
(19-08-2021, 10:46 AM)GaribaldiRED Wrote:
(19-08-2021, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: It must be about 2 years ago to the day that we won at Stoke and went top of the league.

If only we could have held onto a point at Barnsley right at the end of the season, who knows what might have been.

Fine lines eh?

All this is easily forgotten though now of course.

Well we can't blame Vrentzos anymore so I suppose that it's EM's turn now.

And what is all this forgive nonsense? Forgive him for what exactly? I certainly have nothing to forgive him for.

I hate to point this out and repeat myself but we still have a DMC pairing 

That's recruitment's job.  To find the players to give Hughton options.  As it is, he hasn't any.

SA.

You misunderstood me SA. I tried to be funny. We seem to blame everything on the Yates and Colback so I thought why not this as well.
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(19-08-2021, 01:23 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: They're very good appointments.  As is Hughton.

But you've got people screaming after 3 close games.

I understand the frustration.  But hanging Hughton?  Might as well hang them all. 

They've had 3 months to bring in the players in a difficult market.

The owners clearly have a long term plan and have admitted mistakes.  Have the Forest 'some fans' got the stomach for patience?

We can give the new CEO time?  But not Hughton?  At least Mr. V got players in.  The new CEO is struggling to land targets.  He's going to learn real quick that the honeymoon at Forest doesn't last very long.  Not even if you're a Forest legend.

Forest fans.  There's nothing quite like getting what you want, eh?

SA.

If it were 3 close games no one would be concerned.

Let’s forget the fact that it’s 2 wins in 17.

Not to mention you could see the result happening in each of the 3 games this season. 

You could call the line up and set up in each of his 44 league games in charge.

Yes he has been sold short this summer but he has also sent the team out to defend and limit attack. He may not have the best squad in the world but his current tactic isn’t working... hasn’t been working for a long time not just this season.

Tough one to call though because I think what’s happening above CH isn’t helping at the moment.
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In reality after what happened last season, CH needed to hit the ground running.

Unfortunately the club haven’t made that possible.

Best centre half and leader injured.
No full backs
Lost our best midfielder and not replaced him (Garner)

Basically we have made this season a 41 game season.

If we get this next decision wrong we could easily end up on League 1
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its why I`d stick - give him the right support and tools and we can stay in this league which is the only realistic target given the amount of change this year , for me this was always a transitional year and I just hope our owners understand where its gone wrong and how long it will take to resolve. Next season is a different matter as I don't think anyone can get behind this style of football and negativity long term but we havent got the players to do anything else currently - you have to play 2 DM`s with Figs.
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