Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager

[Widdow]

Hughton's second season in charge of a club is normally a very good one. I was reading some comments from Brighton fans the other day and they were all saying the same thing which was for us to stick with Hughton despite a poor season.

Normally is right. 

Newcastle second season he got the sack, and his second season at Norwich wasn’t a roaring success (finishing 11th), and sacked in his 3rd season with club 17th. 

But yes did get to the play offs in his second season at Brighton.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Hughton's second season in charge of a club is normally a very good one. I was reading some comments from Brighton fans the other day and they were all saying the same thing which was for us to stick with Hughton despite a poor season.

Normally is right. 

Newcastle second season he got the sack, and his second season at Norwich wasn’t a roaring success (finishing 11th), and sacked in his 3rd season with club 17th. 

But yes did get to the play offs in his second season at Brighton.

So he got Newcastle up in his first season then?

Wasn't that season at Norwich when he finished 11th in the PL? If it was then I bet they have never been higher than 11th since.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

ok i'm pretty entrenched in the doom and gloom of Chris Hughton even though the statistics seem to confirm that season 1 you get the blow up doll and 2nd season you get the real Barbie

this stability thing, my feeling is everything could well change, so if you are a CH ultra, the more fanatical the loyalty to him actually means the more that was either wrong season 1 or has to change for CH to make the differance .. season 2

all we did learn is he didn't get the bounce, he didn't really get lucky, he did nothing to make his own luck change and he can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear

conclusion keeping Chris Hughton means more instability as in changes maybe to the point where everyone goes and gets replaced except Chris

The 2nd season thing is more likely to be where most things were put in place in the first season but in our case seems maybe more mould and rot in our end of terrace than the usual so in effect a 2nd season at Forest is similar to a first season anywhere else

What if say Gary Brazil or Marinakis even actually thinks the squad was much better than the 17th

I think Chris is basically going to have to be interviewed again, there is some explaining needed, not to most on here i know but come on, last season was poor and alot of stuff ain't right and to pretend having the same manager 2nd season makes us stable, well i don't agree, as in i don't think the club see it quite as rosy as this forum does regarding CH

The stability really only requires the owner to be happy here and more focussed than ever, not sure if this is the case completely but if it is we are 'stable', if CH flops 2nd season our end of terrace might be sliding down the avenues in Forest Town and all the kids in the street are waving at us slide by

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Hughton's second season in charge of a club is normally a very good one. I was reading some comments from Brighton fans the other day and they were all saying the same thing which was for us to stick with Hughton despite a poor season.

Normally is right. 

Newcastle second season he got the sack, and his second season at Norwich wasn’t a roaring success (finishing 11th), and sacked in his 3rd season with club 17th. 

But yes did get to the play offs in his second season at Brighton.

So he got Newcastle up in his first season then?

Wasn't that season at Norwich when he finished 11th in the PL? If it was then I bet they have never been higher than 11th since.

As you didn't answer I just checked and when Hughton finished 11th with Norwich it WAS in the Premier League.

This is where we differ. You want to beat Hughton with a stick for finishing 11th with Norwich in the PL where I think that getting Norwich into 11th place in the PL is a tremendous achievement.

[tugger2018]

For me Chris hughton bottled it he picked Sabri team and formation / tactics whenever possible and
Never ever went for the win or changed formation
Awful set pieces corners free kicks etc did we even score from 1
The team was ready made for playing 3 at the back with worrall mckenna figs/soh
They always looked unfit and not coached
No improvement maybe just Christie
It’s time for some action
He even says end of season will be uncomfortable maybe it’s because you might finally have to make a decision Chris

[PsychoStanleyStone]

For me Chris hughton bottled it he picked Sabri team and formation / tactics whenever possible and
Never ever went for the win or changed formation
Awful set pieces corners free kicks etc did we even score from 1
The team was ready made for playing 3 at the back with worrall mckenna figs/soh
They always looked unfit and not coached
No improvement maybe just Christie
It’s time for some action
He even says end of season will be uncomfortable maybe it’s because you might finally have to make a decision Chris

hi Tugger, you sound like me!  obviously without my prose and hilarious 'blow up doll/Barbie' and the 'end of terrace sliding down the avenues in Forest Town' sensationalism

but yes Tugger, to have confidence in the 2nd season CH i needed to see more last season, predictability and same stale approach to games didn't do enough to convince me he is going to turn into some sort of innovative managerial wizz 2nd season

i think trying a sweeper maybe Ribs with Worrall and McKenna at the back if we really wanted to see how good our best players really are, even just in spells but something differant desperately needed, but i like differant stuff and i think opposing managers just love to know like we all did how we would set up every single game

[Widdow]

Hughton's second season in charge of a club is normally a very good one. I was reading some comments from Brighton fans the other day and they were all saying the same thing which was for us to stick with Hughton despite a poor season.

Normally is right. 

Newcastle second season he got the sack, and his second season at Norwich wasn’t a roaring success (finishing 11th), and sacked in his 3rd season with club 17th. 

But yes did get to the play offs in his second season at Brighton.

So he got Newcastle up in his first season then?

Wasn't that season at Norwich when he finished 11th in the PL? If it was then I bet they have never been higher than 11th since.

As you didn't answer I just checked and when Hughton finished 11th with Norwich it WAS in the Premier League.

This is where we differ. You want to beat Hughton with a stick for finishing 11th with Norwich in the PL where I think that getting Norwich into 11th place in the PL is a tremendous achievement.

Ask Norwich fans what they think of Hughton and his style of football. 

I did post it when he joined us. 

I am not convinced, but hey, let’s see what happens in his meeting with the boss man and then what the summer brings and he can drill and gel them in preseason to be one of the promotion contenders. 

That’s what I want, and I am sure after 5 years that’s what the big man wants.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I think that's what we all want Widdow.

[Sabricadabra]

People criticising Hughton for getting the sack after getting a club promoted to the Premier League. I’ve read it all now.

Any manager who managed to drag a throughly average second tier club like Forest to the Premier League would deserve the freedom of the city regardless of any other considerations. It would be a huge achievement given all the factors against it happening.

[Widdow]

People criticising Hughton for getting the sack after getting a club promoted to the Premier League. I’ve read it all now.

Any manager who managed to drag a throughly average second tier club like Forest to the Premier League would deserve the freedom of the city regardless of any other considerations. It would be a huge achievement given all the factors against it happening.

I agree any manager who gets us back up will be lauded, an di do hope Hughton is that mine. I dont think he can get us up. 

Shame the years gone by have made us feel like we are a thoroughly average second tier club, I have more love for them to consider that, perhaps because i have seen the good years and travelled to Europe with Forest (albeit the Frank Clark UEFA cup run) and still expect more from them, but hey if you look at Forest like that, no wonder you accept mediocrity. 

You call it a criticism, need to re-read, as Hughtons second season is supposed to be better, i said it wasn't always the case. And i still believe, most managers could have gotten Newcastle promoted that season.

[Jean_claude_killy]

Hughton's second season in charge of a club is normally a very good one. I was reading some comments from Brighton fans the other day and they were all saying the same thing which was for us to stick with Hughton despite a poor season.

Normally is right. 

Newcastle second season he got the sack, and his second season at Norwich wasn’t a roaring success (finishing 11th), and sacked in his 3rd season with club 17th. 

But yes did get to the play offs in his second season at Brighton.

So he got Newcastle up in his first season then?

Wasn't that season at Norwich when he finished 11th in the PL? If it was then I bet they have never been higher than 11th since.

As you didn't answer I just checked and when Hughton finished 11th with Norwich it WAS in the Premier League.

This is where we differ. You want to beat Hughton with a stick for finishing 11th with Norwich in the PL where I think that getting Norwich into 11th place in the PL is a tremendous achievement.

Yes and is it not amazing how the feelings of the Norwich support during that season goes without mention; same at Brighton, no one had a bad word for Hughton during the promotion year.

[Sabricadabra]

People criticising Hughton for getting the sack after getting a club promoted to the Premier League. I’ve read it all now.

Any manager who managed to drag a throughly average second tier club like Forest to the Premier League would deserve the freedom of the city regardless of any other considerations. It would be a huge achievement given all the factors against it happening.

I agree any manager who gets us back up will be lauded, an di do hope Hughton is that mine. I dont think he can get us up. 

Shame the years gone by have made us feel like we are a thoroughly average second tier club, I have more love for them to consider that, perhaps because i have seen the good years and travelled to Europe with Forest (albeit the Frank Clark UEFA cup run) and still expect more from them, but hey if you look at Forest like that, no wonder you accept mediocrity. 

You call it a criticism, need to re-read, as Hughtons second season is supposed to be better, i said it wasn't always the case. And i still believe, most managers could have gotten Newcastle promoted that season.

It isn’t a feeling that we are an average second tier club, it’s a fact - average income, average wage bill, average league position over the past 20 years. If you had to pick a club who epitomised the Championship it would be Forest.

You deliberately omitted to say that the ‘sacked in his second season’ clubs were in the Premier League, when his record in the top tier is largely irrelevant. A manager’s ability to get us there is all that’s important. His record in the Championship is all I’m interested in, and he’s never finished below 4th in a full season.