Nottingham Forest - Huddersfield Town

[Paplane]

I predict a big uplift in performance on wednesday if Ameobi returns.

And Stere Hodge was of the opinion that Grabban was off the boil. He can see it. Me and my dad can see it, most of this forum sees it. But the manager, no.

[zicorice]

Just give the ball to Mighten

Just reading through everyone's comments-this one absolutely smacks the nail on the head. 

I alluded to it in my pos/neg match summary. 

Some of the bin the manager comments though :huh:.
 ? Seriously? Have we supporters not learnt anything? 

If an experienced calm, gradual improvement type manager, especially the calibre of CH can't sort us out we are in trouble. It could be argued that those calling for his head -albeit after a crap performance- deserve what they get and have had for most of last 22 years.

I think we can safely say that - if he were undecided before today - he will have resolved not to attempt to get Knockaert again next season.

Yep. You cant have the worst player on the pitch earning the most money in the dressing room. Itd a recipe for disharmony.

Hadn't thought of it like that, makes it seem even worse.

[Shawoddyred]

Let's not be too hard on knockers. I personally think that he brought us a bit of swagger when he came in, made the rest of the team realise they could bring it to the opposition a bit. He also showed a lot more passion and aggression when the rest of the team were completely passive. Perhaps he's served a purpose earlier on in the loan and maybe we've just moved past him now? Let's not throw him under the bus completely though, I genuinely think he played a big part, even if it was for a handful of games...

[Shawoddyred]

Let's not be too hard on knockers. I personally think that he brought us a bit of swagger when he came in, made the rest of the team realise they could bring it to the opposition a bit. He also showed a lot more passion and aggression when the rest of the team were completely passive. Perhaps he's served a purpose earlier on in the loan and maybe we've just moved past him now? Let's not throw him under the bus completely though, I genuinely think he played a big part, even if it was for a handful of games...

And no, I don't think we should sign him in the summer....

[Strawberry Avenger]

Just give the ball to Mighten

Just reading through everyone's comments-this one absolutely smacks the nail on the head. 

I alluded to it in my pos/neg match summary. 

Some of the bin the manager comments though :huh:.
 ? Seriously? Have we supporters not learnt anything? 

If an experienced calm, gradual improvement type manager, especially the calibre of CH can't sort us out we are in trouble. It could be argued that those calling for his head -albeit after a crap performance- deserve what they get and have had for most of last 22 years.

I think we can safely say that - if he were undecided before today - he will have resolved not to attempt to get Knockaert again next season.

Yep. You cant have the worst player on the pitch earning the most money in the dressing room. Itd a recipe for disharmony.

:cool:

Yup.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Two disinterested or 'off the boil' players on about 60K between them.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Let's not be too hard on knockers. I personally think that he brought us a bit of swagger when he came in, made the rest of the team realise they could bring it to the opposition a bit. He also showed a lot more passion and aggression when the rest of the team were completely passive. Perhaps he's served a purpose earlier on in the loan and maybe we've just moved past him now? Let's not throw him under the bus completely though, I genuinely think he played a big part, even if it was for a handful of games...

Yeah.  Caught us some valuable points at a 'moment in time.'

As for the bus.  He'll need no help from Forest fans.  He did that today all by himself.

SA.

[stirred]

We were poor today and we lost the battle but the war goes on.

It's been a while since we have seen a performance like that so I am not going to grumble too much.

My short term memory is not too bad and we have seen some good performances lately and some convincing displays against Swansea away, Brentford away and Millwall and QPR at home. Those performances were far better than anything we had previously seen under Lamouchi earlier in the season.

So yes we were crap today but looking at the bigger picture I am rather pleased and optimistic for next season.

Spot on. Seems that there appear to be a number of 'supporters' including a small number of posters here who have no view of bigger picture whatsoever. 

Not for one minute suggesting everything is rosey in the Forest garden, but it could have been a whole lot worse if we hadn't been fortunate enough to secure such a steady pair of hands as Chris Hughton. Assuming he decides the players we go after (and we get some of them), then more improvements will follow.

No fair. I don’t like Hughton because of his style of football and I also think he’s weak tactically.

You can agree or disagree, but that’s nowt to do with not seeing the big picture. There seems to be an attempt to equate criticising Hughton with being impatient. May be true for some, but it doesn’t follow.

I have always been happy to be patient, and have called for more development of our younger players, something Highton seems disinclined to do, which is another criticism I have of him. 

I also don’t think we were in any danger this season. It has been greatly exaggerated to excuse the performance of the current manager. I think that’s part of the bigger picture, and so I think you’re wrong. 

So it’s not impatience. It’s not missing the bigger picture. It’s just a difference of opinion, no?

People should be able to express their opinion without being referred to as ‘supporters’.

[wassy04]

We were poor today and we lost the battle but the war goes on.

It's been a while since we have seen a performance like that so I am not going to grumble too much.

My short term memory is not too bad and we have seen some good performances lately and some convincing displays against Swansea away, Brentford away and Millwall and QPR at home. Those performances were far better than anything we had previously seen under Lamouchi earlier in the season.

So yes we were crap today but looking at the bigger picture I am rather pleased and optimistic for next season.

Spot on. Seems that there appear to be a number of 'supporters' including a small number of posters here who have no view of bigger picture whatsoever. 

Not for one minute suggesting everything is rosey in the Forest garden, but it could have been a whole lot worse if we hadn't been fortunate enough to secure such a steady pair of hands as Chris Hughton. Assuming he decides the players we go after (and we get some of them), then more improvements will follow.

No fair. I don’t like Hughton because of his style of football and I also think he’s weak tactically.

You can agree or disagree, but that’s nowt to do with not seeing the big picture. There seems to be an attempt to equate criticising Hughton with being impatient. May be true for some, but it doesn’t follow.

I have always been happy to be patient, and have called for more development of our younger players, something Highton seems disinclined to do, which is another criticism I have of him. 

I also don’t think we were in any danger this season. It has been greatly exaggerated to excuse the performance of the current manager. I think that’s part of the bigger picture, and so I think you’re wrong. 

So it’s not impatience. It’s not missing the bigger picture. It’s just a difference of opinion, no?

People should be able to express their opinion without being referred to as ‘supporters’.

Hiding behind the free speech banner, the classic trope.of someone that knows they're saying something controversial. 

We're not even safe now ffs! If Rotherham get 4 points from their games in hand we'll be 6 from safety with 4 to play. Ridiculous notion to suggest we weren't in danger. It's this attitude that's the reason managers repeatedly get sacked and we get stuck in this painful cycle of repetitive failure. 

And for the record both Mighten and Yates have been brought into the side recently as well as Garner (admittedly not our player) I'm not really sure who you want in right now?! 

I'm not saying CH couldn't have done better but at least criticise him for the right things.

[zicorice]

We were poor today and we lost the battle but the war goes on.

It's been a while since we have seen a performance like that so I am not going to grumble too much.

My short term memory is not too bad and we have seen some good performances lately and some convincing displays against Swansea away, Brentford away and Millwall and QPR at home. Those performances were far better than anything we had previously seen under Lamouchi earlier in the season.

So yes we were crap today but looking at the bigger picture I am rather pleased and optimistic for next season.

Spot on. Seems that there appear to be a number of 'supporters' including a small number of posters here who have no view of bigger picture whatsoever. 

Not for one minute suggesting everything is rosey in the Forest garden, but it could have been a whole lot worse if we hadn't been fortunate enough to secure such a steady pair of hands as Chris Hughton. Assuming he decides the players we go after (and we get some of them), then more improvements will follow.

No fair. I don’t like Hughton because of his style of football and I also think he’s weak tactically.

You can agree or disagree, but that’s nowt to do with not seeing the big picture. There seems to be an attempt to equate criticising Hughton with being impatient. May be true for some, but it doesn’t follow.

I have always been happy to be patient, and have called for more development of our younger players, something Highton seems disinclined to do, which is another criticism I have of him. 

I also don’t think we were in any danger this season. It has been greatly exaggerated to excuse the performance of the current manager. I think that’s part of the bigger picture, and so I think you’re wrong. 

So it’s not impatience. It’s not missing the bigger picture. It’s just a difference of opinion, no?

People should be able to express their opinion without being referred to as ‘supporters’.

Hiding behind the free speech banner, the classic trope.of someone that knows they're saying something controversial. 

We're not even safe now ffs! If Rotherham get 4 points from their games in hand we'll be 6 from safety with 4 to play. Ridiculous notion to suggest we weren't in danger. It's this attitude that's the reason managers repeatedly get sacked and we get stuck in this painful cycle of repetitive failure. 

And for the record both Mighten and Yates have been brought into the side recently as well as Garner (admittedly not our player) I'm not really sure who you want in right now?! 

I'm not saying CH couldn't have done better but at least criticise him for the right things.

Pretty much the same reply I would have given, other than to add against Millwall, Brentford and QPR recently the "style of football" has looked pretty decent to me, mostly with players he inherited. That's more of a blueprint than in the first 4 or 5 months after he arrived, at which point we were leaking goals and firing blanks-a combination that only points one way.

Tactics have rarely if ever cost us games this season, not being able to pass, defend or score goals on the other hand most certainly have. The 1st two of these have improved as the season has progressed under CH the third one not so much-yet.

Brighton were pretty entertaining on their escape from the Championship, but then far more tight at the back to survive in the Prem.

As for not playing youngsters? Who? He's done a great job of integrating Mighten. Yates gets regular games. Who else was ready for a relegation battle-because thats what we have been in for most of the season.

I get that opinions differ. I pay for 3 season tickets in A block and want decent entertainment. But I also want to win. To do that we have been saying (for 20 plus years) we need stability. We also have a steady hand at the tiller so actually have the chance of that long awaited stability-unless elements of our "supporterbase" would prefer something different,....again.

[McDurban]

That was diabolical today. Huddersfield were garbage.

[Paplane]

That was diabolical today. Huddersfield were garbage.

Yep, most teams will have smashed them today, especially after the poor start they made. It was back to the bad days of the start of the season.

The old traits returned. Shakey defending, impotent up front and Yates in the middle soing what he used to do.

Cafu has to some back in on Wednesday.