Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Dodgy...

[ozzyten10]

We are frustrated - probably none so much as Marinakis himself. However, we must all pull together to stay up. Then sort it out this summer for once and all...

[Paplane]

Blokes got a chip on his shoulder about something, clearly doesn't like Vrentzos at all. It's a shame because I believe he makes valid points and criticisms but they're veiled in bitterness in my opinion, I suspect it's because he didn't like MON being sacked.

Yep, this ^^^

[PsychoStooge]

For what it's worth I think Marinakis needs to get rid of Vrentzos now. Supporters are too up in arms about him on Twitter and have been since Taylor's first bunch of Tweets regarding him, nothing he can do will change that now so I don't see a way back, if he doesn't then supporters will fully turn on Marinakis as well, it's already starting.

I want him to be a success here because I believe he's a good football club owner, he's demonstrated he is with Olympiacos and if we go up for sale again we could end up with another Fawaz quite easily, shockingly easily in fact.

[Marinakis Red]

Dodgy...

Still not answered my genuine question yet again snif I see. Have to say I'm not surprised as it has happened quite a few times  ;)

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

For what it's worth I think Marinakis needs to get rid of Vrentzos now. Supporters are too up in arms about him on Twitter and have been since Taylor's first bunch of Tweets regarding him, nothing he can do will change that now so I don't see a way back, if he doesn't then supporters will fully turn on Marinakis as well, it's already starting.

I want him to be a success here because I believe he's a good football club owner, he's demonstrated he is with Olympiacos and if we go up for sale again we could end up with another Fawaz quite easily, shockingly easily in fact.

^ This is what I mean when I say that Taylor's comments won't do any good and that they are not helping. We are in a relegation battle as it is, the things highlighted above are the last things we need right now.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Dodgy...

Still not answered my genuine question yet again snif I see. Have to say I'm not surprised as it has happened quite a few times  ;)

I can't answer your question because I don't work at the football club and neither do you or anyone else on this forum.

[Paplane]

For what it's worth I think Marinakis needs to get rid of Vrentzos now. Supporters are too up in arms about him on Twitter and have been since Taylor's first bunch of Tweets regarding him, nothing he can do will change that now so I don't see a way back, if he doesn't then supporters will fully turn on Marinakis as well, it's already starting.

I want him to be a success here because I believe he's a good football club owner, he's demonstrated he is with Olympiacos and if we go up for sale again we could end up with another Fawaz quite easily, shockingly easily in fact.

^ This is what I mean when I say that Taylor's comments won't do any good and that they are not helping. We are in a relegation battle as it is, the things highlighted above are the last things we need right now.

Look at the clusteefuck that is the derby sale. Similar size club in a similar position,, stuck in a rut in the championship. Good owners aren't queuing at the door to buy them, just some well dodgy chamcer. At least Marinakis is a football man, not a venture capitalist.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

Blokes got a chip on his shoulder about something, clearly doesn't like Vrentzos at all. It's a shame because I believe he makes valid points and criticisms but they're veiled in bitterness in my opinion, I suspect it's because he didn't like MON being sacked.

all the managers have all had excellent integrity, some of the most respected in football, MoN and Roy Keane being an excellent example, for me, besides usually the timings of the dismissals, often sudden, and in the case of MoN at a time when he'd got some good results and ironically had won his last 3 games, with a complete pre season to prepare, i think when players allegedly start throwing toys out the pram is the time to support the manager, especially with the incredible depth of experience of no doubt seeing the absolute worst and the ultimate best of dressing room atmospheres and generally diffusing and remedying situations

i think MoN and Roy Keane were such a perfect fit for Forest but will we ever get to the bottom of what happened?  Same with Karanka what really went on there?  Warburton similar.  

Whatever did go on, all i can conclude is that really decent managers have been ejected and we are left with the same problems, though the noone can come out and say what the problems are or were, too much passion?  vision was too clear?  Too honest?  Too much integrity for NFFC?

[JollyLolly]

I support Sniffer in his personal opinion and stance behind the owner, however like most on here I personally now have doubts that matters within the club are not right. Whatever is not correct from top to bottom need sorting, if this mean new owner, CEO, Manager and players then this need to be addressed. I have stated many times on this forum the club needs to start with an ethos and playing style that is relevant to all age groups through to 1st team, future managers/coaches, recruitment and players need to fit the clubs criteria once set. This is the starting point be it with the existing owners or potential new management team. We just keep going round in circles, rinse and repeat, about time we as supporters have the balls to say enough is enough, be prepared to accept the inevitable early lows but in the knowledge that we have a future path to be a successful club.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

For what it's worth I think Marinakis needs to get rid of Vrentzos now. Supporters are too up in arms about him on Twitter and have been since Taylor's first bunch of Tweets regarding him, nothing he can do will change that now so I don't see a way back, if he doesn't then supporters will fully turn on Marinakis as well, it's already starting.

I want him to be a success here because I believe he's a good football club owner, he's demonstrated he is with Olympiacos and if we go up for sale again we could end up with another Fawaz quite easily, shockingly easily in fact.

^ This is what I mean when I say that Taylor's comments won't do any good and that they are not helping. We are in a relegation battle as it is, the things highlighted above are the last things we need right now.

Look at the clusteefuck that is the derby sale. Similar size club in a similar position,, stuck in a rut in the championship. Good owners aren't queuing at the door to buy them, just some well dodgy chamcer. At least Marinakis is a football man, not a venture capitalist.

Correct Pap but when I said that people should be careful what they wish for a few weeks ago I got slaughtered for it.

You'll see...

[ThePromisedLand]

Let’s just take a look at a sprinkling of the players who’s transfers have been concluded - and hence rubber stamped by Vrentzos / Modesto et al ( forgive me if this is not a comprehensive list ):

Bouchalakis
Kapino
Fuentes
Dejagah
Soudani
Hefele
Pele
Wague
Milosevic
Tachtsidis
Goncalves
Dias
Carvalho
Janko
Bonatini
Jacob
Ansarifad
Jenkinson
DaCosta
Bong
Bostock
Mir
Semedo
Diakhaby
Arter
Bachirou
Blackett
Guerrero
Diallo

Despite the absolute car crash that has been our transfer dealings since EM took over - & the consequent poor performance on the pitch - my beef has always been the overall administration of the club.
DT - in one of his tweets yesterday - mentioned the ‘miracle gates’ as promised. What happened to them? ( perhaps almost an irrelevance in the scheme of things - but don’t over promise )
Moreover - the treatment of the clubs ( non football staff ) employees. It was hoped that this would improve post Fawaz ( how could it not! ) - it appears not to have changed.

This is why we need someone of the stature of Daniel Taylor to fight our cause.