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(13-12-2020, 12:34 PM)Joe Baker Legend Wrote: I seem to be in the other corner, I haven't forgotten his mistake v the sheep last season.
Still hard to forgive for that.
Also considering that last season, its a bit rich coming from him.
Its a Kay Burley, Beth Rigby situation, not tenable considering their earlier stance.
Anyway, all these players spouting how they do, " I'm a Red through and through"
Thats until money comes along, then they piss off to pastures new, then towards the end of their career they want to come back as a manager or coach, it happens too much.
I am not saying I would do any different mind, the money sets them up for life.
Who was the Forest player who refused to move recently, was it Riberio?
If so that is what I respect!
Hear what you say Joe - and, to a degree, I agree.
I used to be - consistently - Joe’s biggest critic.
But he’s winning me over.
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(13-12-2020, 01:52 PM)Username Wrote: (13-12-2020, 11:37 AM)Tricky Wrote: (13-12-2020, 10:54 AM)Username Wrote: Home truths can be very damaging if timed incorrectly.
He’s done that before and it’s been counter productive.
He's the captain now though, it is part of his responsibility to help put the team straight.
The truth can hurt, but why skip around it? By doing or saying nothing, is that not just as counter-productive?
In a team sport?
It can be utterly counter productive.
Counterproductive to what? The great team spirit, cohesiveness and unity this squad has shown? Please.
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(13-12-2020, 12:34 PM)Joe Baker Legend Wrote: I seem to be in the other corner, I haven't forgotten his mistake v the sheep last season.
Still hard to forgive for that.
Also considering that last season, its a bit rich coming from him.
Its a Kay Burley, Beth Rigby situation, not tenable considering their earlier stance.
Anyway, all these players spouting how they do, " I'm a Red through and through"
Thats until money comes along, then they piss off to pastures new, then towards the end of their career they want to come back as a manager or coach, it happens too much.
I am not saying I would do any different mind, the money sets them up for life.
Who was the Forest player who refused to move recently, was it Riberio?
If so that is what I respect!
I guess the difference is that Joe didn't make the exact same mistake again.....and again.....and again......and again......and again.......and again.......and again........and again....and again..........and again.........and again........and again........and again........
Sorry, I was reflecting on Figs since lock down.
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Also, wasn't the last person who gave our squad some home truths a certain Roy Keane? The players then went off crying to the owner to get him and the manager removed? Alot of different players now, but they clearly can't take responsibility, many of them.
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its obvious there are problems in the squad.
Players are not talking to each other. Players are visibly showing they are pissed off with others on the pitch after mistakes.
There is real disharmony at the moment.
But that is to be expected with so many new players coming in.
Things will get better, I am sure.........and it will start soon, we just need a win, then another and then we will build back better and stronger.
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(13-12-2020, 07:05 PM)Woan Wrote: (13-12-2020, 01:52 PM)Username Wrote: (13-12-2020, 11:37 AM)Tricky Wrote: (13-12-2020, 10:54 AM)Username Wrote: Home truths can be very damaging if timed incorrectly.
He’s done that before and it’s been counter productive.
He's the captain now though, it is part of his responsibility to help put the team straight.
The truth can hurt, but why skip around it? By doing or saying nothing, is that not just as counter-productive?
In a team sport?
It can be utterly counter productive.
Counterproductive to what? The great team spirit, cohesiveness and unity this squad has shown? Please.
It can get much worse, let’s not be naive
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If/when we drop into the bottom 3, has anybody seen the required minerals in this squad to get out of it ?
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(13-12-2020, 11:09 PM)Reds73 Wrote: If/when we drop into the bottom 3, has anybody seen the required minerals in this squad to get out of it ?
No absolutely not unfortunately.
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No fight energy or mobility in this team to get us out of it. It's a matter of when not if on current performances.
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If we sell Worrall in January I will be totally brassed off.
Panic on the streets of London
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(14-12-2020, 01:02 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: If we sell Worrall in January I will be totally brassed off.
I honestly can't see it happening Sniff. But if we do, then I too will be majorly pissed off
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(14-12-2020, 01:03 PM)Tricky Wrote: (14-12-2020, 01:02 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: If we sell Worrall in January I will be totally brassed off.
I honestly can't see it happening Sniff. But if we do, then I too will be majorly pissed off
Wish I shared your confidence Tricks - with our recent transfer dealings record it wouldn’t surprise me.
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