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[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It's the ref who should be fined 5,000 not us. Unbelievable decision.

[ThePromisedLand]

And he continues to officiate - unbelievable!

[Sausage Roll]

Percy reporting in the Telegraph that Championship clubs have demanded a meeting with the referees chief to discuss the poor standard of officiating this season.

Article is behind a paywall so I can't access it to paste it here.

[Paplane]

Percy reporting in the Telegraph that Championship clubs have demanded a meeting with the referees chief to discuss the poor standard of officiating this season.

Article is behind a paywall so I can't access it to paste it here.

I might be imagining it but I reckon for our last 2 games the refs have gone back to making decisions that favour the home teams. Not big decisions, just the normal small ones, a foul given here and not there etc. What's changed? 2000 home fans. Must be a coincidence......

[wassy04]

Percy reporting in the Telegraph that Championship clubs have demanded a meeting with the referees chief to discuss the poor standard of officiating this season.

Article is behind a paywall so I can't access it to paste it here.

I might be imagining it but I reckon for our last 2 games the refs have gone back to making decisions that favour the home teams. Not big decisions, just the normal small ones, a foul given here and not there etc. What's changed? 2000 home fans. Must be a coincidence......

Would love to see some stats in a few weeks as to whether this was true and whether having fans helped.

[zicorice]

#NFFC have been fined £5000 by the EFL for 'failing to ensure that its players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion' in the Watford game after Nate Chalobah's challenge on Harry Arter in the 84th minute.

The club have accepted the penalty.

Cash or cheque? Whatever was said was justified. It was a disgraceful decision by the ref.

Agree with half of that. Rubbish challenge that warranted a red. However, I will never agree with players abusing refs. Lots of reasons for it.

1. Being brought up on Cloughie its ingrained.
2. The steady decline in quality of reffing is directly linked to the lack of refs at grass roots. The lack of respect for refs at lower level has also gradually declined in a similar time span-hence who wants to do it?
3. The players are role models for kids. The kids copy what they see. I have worked in grass roots sport for 23 years and seen it with my own eyes. Diving, gestures (the recent one is getting fouled, slapping the floor, then after a while jumping up and carrying on as if nothing has happened) and mouthing at refs over trivial decisions all from 9- 16 year olds.
4. All refs hate Arter, its human nature to want to book him etc as he is such a gob sh1te. That affects Forest. It's not right but it can happen. Other players being like that can make refs have a preconception, rightly or wrongly, it affects us.

We do seem to have more than our fair share of crap refs though. Coincidence?...

[stirred]

#NFFC have been fined £5000 by the EFL for 'failing to ensure that its players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion' in the Watford game after Nate Chalobah's challenge on Harry Arter in the 84th minute.

The club have accepted the penalty.

Cash or cheque? Whatever was said was justified. It was a disgraceful decision by the ref.

Agree with half of that. Rubbish challenge that warranted a red. However, I will never agree with players abusing refs. Lots of reasons for it.

1. Being brought up on Cloughie its ingrained.
2. The steady decline in quality of reffing is directly linked to the lack of refs at grass roots. The lack of respect for refs at lower level has also gradually declined in a similar time span-hence who wants to do it?
3. The players are role models for kids. The kids copy what they see. I have worked in grass roots sport for 23 years and seen it with my own eyes. Diving, gestures (the recent one is getting fouled, slapping the floor, then after a while jumping up and carrying on as if nothing has happened) and mouthing at refs over trivial decisions all from 9- 16 year olds.
4. All refs hate Arter, its human nature to want to book him etc as he is such a gob sh1te. That affects Forest. It's not right but it can happen. Other players being like that can make refs have a preconception, rightly or wrongly, it affects us.

We do seem to have more than our fair share of crap refs though. Coincidence?...

I have to put my support of the club aside for things like this. It’s bigger than a club and it’s cancerous. It goes beyond football to people, notably kids, growing up not respecting authority more generally.

On this incident the ref let them complain, they’re not stupid. A ref usually knows when there’s a response like that something is afoot. But they wouldn’t let it go. I look to experienced players like Arter for leadership, and that ain’t leadership.

[zicorice]

#NFFC have been fined £5000 by the EFL for 'failing to ensure that its players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion' in the Watford game after Nate Chalobah's challenge on Harry Arter in the 84th minute.

The club have accepted the penalty.

Cash or cheque? Whatever was said was justified. It was a disgraceful decision by the ref.

Agree with half of that. Rubbish challenge that warranted a red. However, I will never agree with players abusing refs. Lots of reasons for it.

1. Being brought up on Cloughie its ingrained.
2. The steady decline in quality of reffing is directly linked to the lack of refs at grass roots. The lack of respect for refs at lower level has also gradually declined in a similar time span-hence who wants to do it?
3. The players are role models for kids. The kids copy what they see. I have worked in grass roots sport for 23 years and seen it with my own eyes. Diving, gestures (the recent one is getting fouled, slapping the floor, then after a while jumping up and carrying on as if nothing has happened) and mouthing at refs over trivial decisions all from 9- 16 year olds.
4. All refs hate Arter, its human nature to want to book him etc as he is such a gob sh1te. That affects Forest. It's not right but it can happen. Other players being like that can make refs have a preconception, rightly or wrongly, it affects us.

We do seem to have more than our fair share of crap refs though. Coincidence?...

I have to put my support of the club aside for things like this. It’s bigger than a club and it’s cancerous. It goes beyond football to people, notably kids, growing up not respecting authority more generally.

On this incident the ref let them complain, they’re not stupid. A ref usually knows when there’s a response like that something is afoot. But they wouldn’t let it go. I look to experienced players like Arter for leadership, and that ain’t leadership.

I was expecting a few pelters for raising my head above the parapet in support of the EFL stance, so good to see others have a similar view. (Well one at least...)

All over social media, people saying "fine EFL for giving us sh1t refs" and the like.  The problem is there are few good refs who stick at it after so much abuse at grass roots. So the slim pickings coming through is what we get. 

I proposed 10 years ago in a role I had, a degree course aimed at promising referees, studying the culture of the game, loads of practical obviously, Assessments at grass roots and academies, missing out all the kids football sh1t from parents on a saturday morning, hung over dick heads on a sunday morning. Only the best get on the course, only the best graduate straight into high level reffing (league 2 and above?).  Others take a bit longer to get there. 

Year on year this might have produced a couple of really top refs that otherwise drop out. It would be a career choice too.

Obviously, fell on deaf ears and here we are. Too many sub standard refs. It can only get worse.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Nottingham Forest Supporters’ Trust have announced details of a new initiative which will allow fans to ask questions of the club’s board.

In an agreement with the club, the Trust will run twice yearly open Q&As with the Reds hierarchy, allowing supporters to submit questions.

It is a programme Trust chair Elliott Stanley hopes can be a positive step in encouraging dialogue between those who run Forest and the club’s supporters.

[Paplane]

Nottingham Forest Supporters’ Trust have announced details of a new initiative which will allow fans to ask questions of the club’s board.

In an agreement with the club, the Trust will run twice yearly open Q&As with the Reds hierarchy, allowing supporters to submit questions.

It is a programme Trust chair Elliott Stanley hopes can be a positive step in encouraging dialogue between those who run Forest and the club’s supporters.

Submission of written questions? what a load of sterile blahdy blah. Just like every other club in the league does, the club just need to stick Vrentzos or Randall or both in front of a radio Nottm microphone and be interviewed every now and then. It's not too much to ask is it?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Unfortunately Pap it is.

[ThePromisedLand]

Nottingham Forest Supporters’ Trust have announced details of a new initiative which will allow fans to ask questions of the club’s board.

In an agreement with the club, the Trust will run twice yearly open Q&As with the Reds hierarchy, allowing supporters to submit questions.

It is a programme Trust chair Elliott Stanley hopes can be a positive step in encouraging dialogue between those who run Forest and the club’s supporters.

Submission of written questions? what a load of sterile blahdy blah. Just like every other club in the league does, the club just need to stick Vrentzos or Randall or both in front of a radio Nottm microphone and be interviewed every now and then. It's not too much to ask is it?

The Trust claiming credit for an initiative originated by ForzaGaribaldi - the brass neck!

When will the Trust accept that they do NOT represent the fans.