Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager

[Alf]

That's fair enough Sniff, we all hear different things and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

[Derby My Arse]

1. Gary Brazil is now in charge of domestic recruitment.

Which seems a bit baffling, as his talent is spotting young talent, not necc people ready for the first team. But we'll see I guess.

And the key word being domestic. If importing random nobodies still remains a key part of our recruitment drive, we're still making the same mistake we have since EM got involved.


2. Who has been sacked when trying to build? Karanka walked out, Sabri was not sacked when many wanted him sacked after Stoke. EM went on and backed him but unfortunately Sabri couldn't turn things around and in the end I am sure that 99% of fans wanted to see Sabri go ion the end.

We all know the story behind the AK fiasco. He was as good as sacked, DT has confirmed this on Twitter.

They didn't back Sabri at a key time. Timing is as important as anything. 

3. I don't think there is any owner in this league who has given more backing to his managers than EM. If there is then name him.

Many have given proven managers like AK & MON more than 6 months. 

4.  Vrentzos on the pitch? When did that happen? He sits in the stand and watches games just like every other COE does up and down the country. He may pop down to the training ground too to speak with the manager etc. What is wrong with that? That is his job.

He's been involved with influencing team selection, again as confirmed by DT (e.g. Ribero). Anyone & everyone I speak to involved with the club doesn't have a good word to say about him.

With respect Alf I disagree with all your points and just because DT says something it doesn't make it true. In fact I can put up a list of things that he said that aren't true.
You might have your people you speak to who are involved with the club but I have mine too here in Greece. I even have family who work for EM. I prefer to trust my sources.

That's fair enough Sniff, we all hear different things and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

I reckon you are probably right, 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other.

EM's heart seems to be in the right place. He's perhaps even trying too hard as daft as it sounds.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

like for like subs on 61 and 76 mins

same game plan as usual

same result

[ozzyten10]

This runs deeper than Hughton. Judge us by actions... well EM and co will be thankful fans aren’t in because the tide is turning. Sniff this is your forum so I will reign it in but the stories are starting to surface. Hughton has a big job on his hands here

[stirred]

It wasn’t clear to me what the plan was. I wasn’t upset by Colback, Yates and Arter, I kind of expected it and could see why you would play it given their threat. But I thought the plan would be to get the upper hand in midfield, and maybe use Colback in a 4-1-4-1 guarding the space in between the lines.

Instead we seemed to concede possession, have Yates and Colback both drop deep and lack cohesion with our other midfielders, but still leave them space to receive passes behind them. And was Arter supposed to be a no 10?

Just usual cliched responses in the post match interview. Really not sure what the plan actually was.

[Sabricadabra]

It wasn’t clear to me what the plan was. I wasn’t upset by Colback, Yates and Arter, I kind of expected it and could see why you would play it given their threat. But I thought the plan would be to get the upper hand in midfield, and maybe use Colback in a 4-1-4-1 guarding the space in between the lines.

Instead we seemed to concede possession, have Yates and Colback both drop deep and lack cohesion with our other midfielders, but still leave them space to receive passes behind them. And was Arter supposed to be a no 10?

Just usual cliched responses in the post match interview. Really not sure what the plan actually was.

The plan was to keep it tight and look to nick it on the break or from a set piece. The goal after 2 minutes was a big blow to the plan. 

The thing is, we were up against a far better team. They only narrowly missed out on staying up last season and still have a wealth of Premier League talent in their squad. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and acknowledge they were better than us.

[Tricky]

It wasn’t clear to me what the plan was. I wasn’t upset by Colback, Yates and Arter, I kind of expected it and could see why you would play it given their threat. But I thought the plan would be to get the upper hand in midfield, and maybe use Colback in a 4-1-4-1 guarding the space in between the lines.

Instead we seemed to concede possession, have Yates and Colback both drop deep and lack cohesion with our other midfielders, but still leave them space to receive passes behind them. And was Arter supposed to be a no 10?

Just usual cliched responses in the post match interview. Really not sure what the plan actually was.

The plan was to keep it tight and look to nick it on the break or from a set piece. The goal after 2 minutes was a big blow to the plan. 

The thing is, we were up against a far better team. They only narrowly missed out on staying up last season and still have a wealth of Premier League talent in their squad. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and acknowledge they were better than us.

A sensible post! Well said Sabri

[stirred]

It wasn’t clear to me what the plan was. I wasn’t upset by Colback, Yates and Arter, I kind of expected it and could see why you would play it given their threat. But I thought the plan would be to get the upper hand in midfield, and maybe use Colback in a 4-1-4-1 guarding the space in between the lines.

Instead we seemed to concede possession, have Yates and Colback both drop deep and lack cohesion with our other midfielders, but still leave them space to receive passes behind them. And was Arter supposed to be a no 10?

Just usual cliched responses in the post match interview. Really not sure what the plan actually was.

The plan was to keep it tight and look to nick it on the break or from a set piece. The goal after 2 minutes was a big blow to the plan. 

The thing is, we were up against a far better team. They only narrowly missed out on staying up last season and still have a wealth of Premier League talent in their squad. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and acknowledge they were better than us.

Yes, we played a midfielder instead of an attacker, but what tactics do we employ? You could try to wrest possession of the ball by overloading midfield, not be able to create much yourself but at least prevent them from having it. You could willingly concede the majority of possession and play a low block and look to counter. You could man mark a player like Brooks even. A bit of insight into what he's asked his players to do and how he thinks it'll get us the result is what I'd like.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

the pre match interview with Chris, it's 12 minutes on youtube but seems much, much longer

terrible almost inaudible and judging by the answers, incredibly boring, tedious questions

no specific positives though Grabbs, Daws, Wozza, Sow and Blackett back in training

[Username]

Tough time for Mr Hughton.

Very difficult when you have

(1) quality individuals way out of form: Grabban, Lolley, Knockaert, Freeman
(2) players with limited ability: Colback, Arter, Yates, Figs, Guerrero, Smith, Jenkinson, Bong, Ioannou, Blackett
(3) individuals who can’t seem to stay / keep / get fit: Worrall, Bachirou, Grabban, Lolley, Sow

He needs a bit of luck and to find a team / formation that he is comfortable with and stick with it.

Some difficult games on the horizon

[stirred]

What is the job of a manager? To get the most out of his squad, and improve it when a transfer window comes around?

Surely they should adapt their tactics based on the players they have and the opponent. I can’t understand how a manager/coach can have a way of playing and we’re expected to suffer until he has a transfer window when he can buy ‘his’ players in.

I didn’t want Hughton, he isn’t the style I want. But surely he has to adapt to what he has? What does he do otherwise for all that money?

And in a world of analysis and a league of teams that often play 3 at the back, what says his ‘way’ which worked 4 seasons ago will work now anyway?

[Alf]

Judging Hughton is really tough at this stage, because he's largely been dealt a poor hand on arrival.

He really needs at least 1 window before we can get a proper grasp on what he's about. The trouble is that, if results continue as is, he might not even get that.

I'm not happy with various things which he does, but make exception because of said hand dealt. However, the one exception to that is constantly playing Figs. He & Christie may as well wear a set of bullseyes for our opposition to target. Soh may be complete toss, but persisting with someone who's playing complete toss as it is makes no sense.