Evangelos Marinakis And Co
(13-12-2020, 10:39 AM)stirred Wrote: PSS, from my experience, not in professional football but I have worked in a highly incentivised industry, the key to good performance in terms of employees is getting people with talent but also who care about what they do. That second part is key here. Joe has it. Ryan Yates has it. You can’t fake it by offering more pieces of silver. It only incentivises the wrong sorts to agitate or down tools if they’re not receiving them, or to game those metrics to maximize their pay, the analogy in football would be people not passing when they should or arguments over who takes a penalty because they want the goals bonus, people causing problems when they’re not selected because they miss out on appearance and win bonuses.

Another piece of the puzzle is management and the environment, but I’ll leave that for now. Suffice it to say that the people who care will try even if the surroundings are far from ideal.

It’s why character is crucial when signing players in my opinion. They have to genuinely be hungry and care about their and their team’s performances. Also partly why Joe will be so hard to replace if we lose him.

I completely agree. 

As for the culture... I do wonder about the impact of high recruitment turnover. Where is the balance between driving success and instilling a fear of failure.

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(13-12-2020, 10:52 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(13-12-2020, 10:02 AM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse.

We seem to be on a downward spiral with the pace accelerating by the minute.

Some form of emergency intervention required - though I admit I am at a loss to know what.

EM - your club needs you.

Agreed TPL.

It's time for EM to step up and sort this mess out. Take the bull by the horns, show who's boss and make some big decisions. Things are clearly not working as they are right now.

Didn't he suspend the entire first team a couple of seasons ago at Oly and got the reserves to play?

Maybe thats what is needed here to deflate a few of the massive egos certain players seem to have
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Ships sink from the top.

SA.
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The culture comes from the top.

Forest would do well to transfer the academy culture to the 1st team.

SA.
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We can finally put this rubbish to bed now about EM. The criminal courts appeal has been rejected this morning and that is now the end of the matter.

The acquittal of all the accused and in fact unanimously decided by the Three-Member Criminal Court of Appeal for the much acclaimed trial of the "Gang"!
"The court finds all the accused innocent."

With this phrase, the president of the 2nd Three-Member Criminal Court of Appeal, Aristea Tsamadia, announced the acquittal of all 28 defendants in the much-praised case of the "Gang" which began in 2012 with the allegations of the former member of KED Christos Savvas, for "set up" refereeing boards and it ends somewhere here.

The decision is unanimous and there was no mention of a limitation period. In other words, the court unanimously ruled that none of the accused committed the acts attributed to them by the parliament.
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That is great news Sniff - thanks for sharing!
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Good to hear Sniff.
Can you clarify, was this trial purely around match fixing allegations or was there a broader charge? Are there any more potential charges facing EM eg the Noor 1 stuff or is he finally free of all that?
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It was purely around match fixing and referees. I am glad he's been proved innocent. Regarding your second question SM I don't think there is any evidence against EM in that either so I doubt there will be any charges but I don't really want to talk about that on here.
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It was never in doubt sniff
Come on you mighty Reds 
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I never said it was, I am just passing it on. Me and EM are both members of the same political party, I know who he knows and I know it was never in doubt. It's a very small country Greece.
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(28-01-2021, 11:16 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I never said it was, I am just passing it on. Me and EM are both members of the same political party, I know who he knows and I know it was never in doubt. It's a very small country Greece.

Money talks!
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(28-01-2021, 11:28 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:
(28-01-2021, 11:16 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I never said it was, I am just passing it on. Me and EM are both members of the same political party, I know who he knows and I know it was never in doubt. It's a very small country Greece.

Money talks!

Not in this case MR.
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