Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager

[Spangles]

osborn not celebrating leeds says alot. not a happy camp.

also fox, darikwa , cash are always arguing with hefele  - karanka wanted to sell him

Because he realised he was shit.

[BarryLyons]

Hefele is a clown.
All fist pumping and arm waving.
There was a moment at Millwall when Darikwa let his man go because he was preoccupied with shouting at Hefele.
Just before or after Danny Fox kicked the ball across goal and out for a corner.

[Duncan Mckenzie]

One or two rumours in Spain that Karanka is going back to Real Madrid with Mourinho.

[Floridared]

I'm 5 hours behind here, first thing I did this morning was to look what was happening and....this!
What a shame, back to square one.
Sorry Aitor,hoped some stability was coming into the club and good times were returning.

[BadDog]

One thing that has surprised is how thick a lot of our fans really are.

On twitter etc slagging journalists off because they got wind of a story, this has been real for a long time yet our fans are so daft as to insult people that keep them informed.

I do worry about people, seems IQ levels are really dropping.

[Username]

In my opinion if any players despised Aitor (doubtful) then it was most probably players who were on the sidelines, for example Goncalves, Bridcutt, Watson etc.

I am 100% sure it was NOT any of the players who were regularly in the starting eleven.

There will always be unhappy players at football clubs if they are not playing, it is natural.

Despised though is a very strong word. It's not nice.

Duncan its true. A night out in nottingham oz steele and lolley only one of those said he despised him. You can probably guess. Maybe beer talking but why say it. No celebration,  seems unhappy. But yes all the players playing was playing for ak, or just being professionals?

In that case Osborn can do one the little snake in the grass. 

Disgusting behaviour.

2+2 = 7 again...

Unless you’re saying Kylos is bullshitting I stand by my comment.

[BadDog]

One or two rumours in Spain that Karanka is going back to Real Madrid with Mourinho.

Seems there is legs to this....

[Kylos247]

In my opinion if any players despised Aitor (doubtful) then it was most probably players who were on the sidelines, for example Goncalves, Bridcutt, Watson etc.

I am 100% sure it was NOT any of the players who were regularly in the starting eleven.

There will always be unhappy players at football clubs if they are not playing, it is natural.

Despised though is a very strong word. It's not nice.

Duncan its true. A night out in nottingham oz steele and lolley only one of those said he despised him. You can probably guess. Maybe beer talking but why say it. No celebration,  seems unhappy. But yes all the players playing was playing for ak, or just being professionals?

In that case Osborn can do one the little snake in the grass. 

Disgusting behaviour.

2+2 = 7 again...

Unless you’re saying Kylos is bullshitting I stand by my comment.

Haha. I couldnt care less if you believe me or not, i called the departure yesterday and low and behold hes gone. Osborn claimed he dislikes ak, in weeks to come you may here his side you may not. Just saying what ive been told.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Duncan its true. A night out in nottingham oz steele and lolley only one of those said he despised him. You can probably guess. Maybe beer talking but why say it. No celebration,  seems unhappy. But yes all the players playing was playing for ak, or just being professionals?

In that case Osborn can do one the little snake in the grass. 

Disgusting behaviour.

2+2 = 7 again...

Unless you’re saying Kylos is bullshitting I stand by my comment.

Haha. I couldnt care less if you believe me or not, i called the departure yesterday and low and behold hes gone. Osborn claimed he dislikes ak, in weeks to come you may here his side you may not. Just saying what ive been told.

Thank you Kylos. That is what the forum is all about.

Relax gentlmen, no need to fall out.

[TrickySte]

Interesting summation from Percy.

Would someone be kind enough to copy this article on here? It's saying I need to register. Thanks.

[JC21]

I just want to make perfectly clear that I don't have a subscription to the right-wing rag but registered to read the article (The Telegraph link that's been posted)



It was on a cold October morning at Nottingham Forest’s training ground when the first real signs of turbulence surfaced over Aitor Karanka’s future as manager.

A pre-scheduled visit from Evangelos Marinakis, the club’s Greek owner, included a meeting with Karanka and his players, in which a stark message was relayed. That message was effectively “promotion or nothing,” according to defender Jack Robinson after the 1-1 draw at Leeds.

It was probably not an ultimatum, but after a mammoth recruitment drive over the summer, with 17 players signed and £23 million spent, Marinakis was unhappy with Forest’s start and spelled it out that a dramatic improvement was required.

Since that meeting, Karanka has won only four Championship games – taking the total to nine victories from 26 – so perhaps his departure is not the surprise many people outside of Nottingham will probably conclude.

There are other statistics, too, which explain why Forest are now searching for their ninth permanent manager in six years. They are only seven points better off than this stage last season, despite such a drastic revamp of the squad which included the record £13.2m signing of Portuguese midfielder Joao Carvalho.

In the summer there was a broad agreement that Karanka needed to be in the play-off places by January 1, yet today they are 7th in the Championship and four points off the top six.

Karanka, unquestionably, will feel he has been harshly treated. Fans will be unhappy and neutrals will think it's another case of trigger-happy owners.

He signed a two-and-a-half year contract in January last year and there has been definite progress under the Spaniard. Living in an apartment close to the banks of the River Trent, he fully bought into the history and traditions of the former European Cup winners.

During his final weeks in charge, he was dignified and remained respectful to the club. Yet behind the scenes there were problems that extended beyond results.

Relations between Karanka and key people behind the scenes, such as chief executive Giannis Vrentzos, who reports to Marinakis almost daily, have become strained.

The appointment of a director of football, Kyriakos Dourekas, was allegedly made without Karanka’s input and there were recent allegations that he was even sat on the Forest bench for the game against Derby in December. The arrival of a sporting director, Jose Anigo, was also apparently made without Karanka being told.

Forest's owners clashed with Karanka over the lack of games for Arvin Appiah, an exciting teenage winger. They argued that Appiah should be given more time on the field, but Karanka felt it was effectively having his team picked for him.

Karanka wanted even more players in January, informing the board he also wanted to sell Michael Hefele who was only signed in August.

He had already been backed, significantly, and Forest’s board believe their spending should have yielded better results. Well-placed sources claim his attitude and mood in training has been "distant" in recent weeks and months.

This was always going to be a crucial season for Marinakis, who also owns Olympiakos. After buying the club in July 2016, the first year was all about steadying the ship and falling in line with Financial Fair Play rules after the bewildering regime of Fawaz Al Hasawi.

The second year was the one where Forest would “go for it” and, quite simply, Marinakis thinks it should have been better.

It is understood Karanka was going to be sacked hours after the 3-3 draw with Norwich on Boxing Day, with a statement even drafted that night. In that game Forest had been leading 3-0 but suffered a remarkable meltdown to draw. Some of Karanka’s substitutions in that game also bewildered the hierarchy.

But he received a short stay of execution for the game against Millwall, which was lost. Perhaps he should have gone then, to avoid stringing this out, but Forest were still intent on rebuilding the relationship. A win over Leeds on New Years Day did little to help.

Karanka’s dismissal comes at a time when, off the field, optimism has arguably never been higher in the past decade. Forest are averaging over 27,500 at the City Ground. Over 22,000 season cards have been sold. There are plans to develop the stadium which are due to be officially released soon.

But another manager departure will only strengthen the theory that Forest are in a hurry to finally end that painful exile from the top flight.

This year it will be two decades since they last operated at that level so the new man, whoever it is, will be under no illusions about the task ahead.

[Username]

Duncan its true. A night out in nottingham oz steele and lolley only one of those said he despised him. You can probably guess. Maybe beer talking but why say it. No celebration,  seems unhappy. But yes all the players playing was playing for ak, or just being professionals?

In that case Osborn can do one the little snake in the grass. 

Disgusting behaviour.

2+2 = 7 again...

Unless you’re saying Kylos is bullshitting I stand by my comment.

Haha. I couldnt care less if you believe me or not, i called the departure yesterday and low and behold hes gone. Osborn claimed he dislikes ak, in weeks to come you may here his side you may not. Just saying what ive been told.

I did believe you, hence my post.