Sean Dyche, Stoney And Woany

[ozzyten10]

Well I don’t know how true this is but apparently in recent meetings Dyche has come out on top in the big man’s eys against some of Edu’s ideas- EM was happy that Dyche called out the players v Wrexham and it had backed up previous concerns Dyche had about the lack of physicality and profile in the squad. Could be bollocks but sounds plausible and may explain some delay in new players. Trouble is I don’t think a scenario where Dyche is picking players ends well either!

[DR Forest]

So to get back on track lets say for example that we finish 6 points above the relegation zone and get to the last 8 of the Eurooa League would you have Dyche in charge again for the start of next season?

That depends entirely on who would be the alternative.

[Trailer Park Tom]

Interesting under the radar information highlighted on forest focus the other day.

Leeds, Burnley, Wolves, West Ham, Palace, Brighton, Spurs, Chelsea, Bournemouth and United.

1 or 0 wins the their last 5.

We have 1 win in our last 5 and the 6th game was a win.

It's not pretty for us but it's half the league.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

So to get back on track lets say for example that we finish 6 points above the relegation zone and get to the last 8 of the Eurooa League would you have Dyche in charge again for the start of next season?

I don’t think I would but I’d also shake his hand and say thanks for steadying the ship and giving us a foundation to build from.

This is my thinking too ^^

[ToryTom]

Dyche 1.23ppg

Nuno 0.69ppg

Parker 0.62ppg

Edwards 0.5ppg

The managers below us have to double their points currently just to be on the level we are currently

Dyche’s ppg is from a fairly small sample size and boosted by victories against West Ham, Wolves and even Leeds which could have gone the other way. There is more than enough time for those figures to reverse. It only requires a couple of wins for those teams at the same time as losses for us. West Ham do have squad which is better than their league position and a manager we know who can get a tune out of players. The most worrying development for me is the deterioration in performances. They have become dreadful and eventually ppg starts to track them.

So Dyche has come in to the job he’s been told beat the clubs around us and we stay up?

You could argue we were lucky to beat those teams. The performances in all three were not that great and no better than our opponents on the day. In my opinion the ppg of Dyche flatters us based upon performances. That can and likely will change because over a large enough sample size of matches points won do track performances. Can’t keep turning up against relegation rivals, play rubbish and expect to win. We are far from safe and if we are going to stay out of the bottom three it is likely that performances will need to improve. Can’t keep relying on luck which is what we most certainly had against West Ham.

You can argue that as much as you want but the results are what they are. 

Luck against West Ham? We scored all three goals!

We get it, you don’t want Dyche and will put a negative slant on it regardless.

Must only be me then who thinks a deterioration in performances is a worrying sign with nearly half a season left to play.

[Marinakis Red]

Dyche’s ppg is from a fairly small sample size and boosted by victories against West Ham, Wolves and even Leeds which could have gone the other way. There is more than enough time for those figures to reverse. It only requires a couple of wins for those teams at the same time as losses for us. West Ham do have squad which is better than their league position and a manager we know who can get a tune out of players. The most worrying development for me is the deterioration in performances. They have become dreadful and eventually ppg starts to track them.

So Dyche has come in to the job he’s been told beat the clubs around us and we stay up?

You could argue we were lucky to beat those teams. The performances in all three were not that great and no better than our opponents on the day. In my opinion the ppg of Dyche flatters us based upon performances. That can and likely will change because over a large enough sample size of matches points won do track performances. Can’t keep turning up against relegation rivals, play rubbish and expect to win. We are far from safe and if we are going to stay out of the bottom three it is likely that performances will need to improve. Can’t keep relying on luck which is what we most certainly had against West Ham.

You can argue that as much as you want but the results are what they are. 

Luck against West Ham? We scored all three goals!

We get it, you don’t want Dyche and will put a negative slant on it regardless.

Must only be me then who thinks a deterioration in performances is a worrying sign with nearly half a season left to play.

You are not on your own mate.

[pennhillred]

So Dyche has come in to the job he’s been told beat the clubs around us and we stay up?

You could argue we were lucky to beat those teams. The performances in all three were not that great and no better than our opponents on the day. In my opinion the ppg of Dyche flatters us based upon performances. That can and likely will change because over a large enough sample size of matches points won do track performances. Can’t keep turning up against relegation rivals, play rubbish and expect to win. We are far from safe and if we are going to stay out of the bottom three it is likely that performances will need to improve. Can’t keep relying on luck which is what we most certainly had against West Ham.

You can argue that as much as you want but the results are what they are. 

Luck against West Ham? We scored all three goals!

We get it, you don’t want Dyche and will put a negative slant on it regardless.

Must only be me then who thinks a deterioration in performances is a worrying sign with nearly half a season left to play.

You are not on your own mate.

I’m with you guys. 

Aside from vs City, the performances since Spurs have really worried me. (The ‘lump it in the box’ tactic at home vs Everton was completely unacceptable.)

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Not disagreeing with the above but what evidence do you have for example had Silva come in we would be doing any better?
Not sure we would be any prettier to watch. Would results be any better?
People have short memories about Nuno’s first season, we were absolutely dire for most of it, only survived because the 3 who went down were useless.

[pennhillred]

Can’t speak for anyone else, but my post had nothing to do with Silva, Nuno or anyone else.

Just that I was surprisingly happy and really encouraged by what I saw when Dyche, Woan and Stone came in.

Since Spurs I’ve been really disappointed and worried about the performances. Some of the stuff has been alarming.

Just hoping things improve and soon.

[Marinakis Red]

Not disagreeing with the above but what evidence do you have for example had Silva come in we would be doing any better?
Not sure we would be any prettier to watch. Would results be any better?
People have short memories about Nuno’s first season, we were absolutely dire for most of it, only survived because the 3 who went down were useless.

I think you have misunderstood SM I said approach silva in the summer in which he would then have a full pre season to work with the players and get his system in place. 

I said Dyche through to the summer and then evaluate things. 

Although in my opinion our performances of late are reminiscent of performances in our first season back up.

[ToryTom]

Dyche 1.23ppg

Nuno 0.69ppg

Parker 0.62ppg

Edwards 0.5ppg

The managers below us have to double their points currently just to be on the level we are currently

Dyche’s ppg is from a fairly small sample size and boosted by victories against West Ham, Wolves and even Leeds which could have gone the other way. There is more than enough time for those figures to reverse. It only requires a couple of wins for those teams at the same time as losses for us. West Ham do have squad which is better than their league position and a manager we know who can get a tune out of players. The most worrying development for me is the deterioration in performances. They have become dreadful and eventually ppg starts to track them.

So Dyche has come in to the job he’s been told beat the clubs around us and we stay up?

You could argue we were lucky to beat those teams. The performances in all three were not that great and no better than our opponents on the day. In my opinion the ppg of Dyche flatters us based upon performances. That can and likely will change because over a large enough sample size of matches points won do track performances. Can’t keep turning up against relegation rivals, play rubbish and expect to win. We are far from safe and if we are going to stay out of the bottom three it is likely that performances will need to improve. Can’t keep relying on luck which is what we most certainly had against West Ham.

You can argue that as much as you want but the results are what they are. 

Luck against West Ham? We scored all three goals!

We get it, you don’t want Dyche and will put a negative slant on it regardless.

Must only be me then who thinks a deterioration in performances is a worrying sign with nearly half a season left to play.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Yes thats fair and I am disappointed myself about how we are currently playing in terms of style not just results.

My point is more would you expect Silva to do better next season? What he has at Fulham is a stable squad to work with and implement his ideas. That’s realistically something he would never get at this club.