Would You Trust Recruitment With Summer 2020?

[PsychoStanleyStone]

By the way, if Pearce is so good like some claim how come no other club has ever appointed him in a recruitment capacity?

Apart from signing Britt and Antonio Pearce didn't do much else.

Imagine if our present recruitment team had signed biscuits like Hunt and Hutchinson and signed Veldijk whatever his name was on a 3 year contract.

Hunt, buscuit?  really?  played virtually every game for the last 5 years

Hutchinson?

Veld cost £500k, though Matty Cash was free, Pearce gave Jorge Grant his debut, signed Oliver Burke onto a long contract and gave him his debut v Spurs

'didn't do much else' ... it's actually a rather a long list of achievements to be fair

Personally, i think he probably saved the club financially and certainly helped keep us afloat, bearing in mind he was working for total absolute idiots here

We could talk about his 2 years at Manchester City, a few years with England U21's and Great Britain team and was popular as assistant at West Ham

''Unmitigated Disaster''  ''Hutchinson?''  ''Didn't Do Much Else''  Lol

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Come on PSS. Both Grant and Burke have turned out to be not very good to be polite.

Hunt got injured at Forest and played just 17 games. Hutchinson managed 9 games.

Lets stick to the facts.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

Come on PSS. Both Grant and Burke have turned out to be not very good to be polite.

Hunt got injured at Forest and played just 17 games. Hutchinson managed 9 games.

Lets stick to the facts.

the bottom line is money, having the balls to give young players a chance, wheeling and dealing with Fawaz in control

i think Hunt went back after the loan and played another 15 games the same season for Rotherham

he had an 8 stiches injury to his head pre season, Fazza didn't want to part with the cash and his value had also increased signficantly under Pearce

wiki quote

Hunt's impact at Nottingham Forest with nineteen appearances had convinced the club's management to express interest in signing him permanently.[58] However, Crystal Palace asked Nottingham Forest to increase their bid for him.[59] This was later confirmed by Palace owner Steve Parish, who stated the club should have signed him permanently and revealed their decision to increase the price to sign Hunt.[60] Hunt's loan spell at Nottingham Forest came to an end on 31 December 2014 and he returned to his parent club.[61] After this, Hunt stated his gratitude to the club, stating the club helped him fall in love with football again.[62]


Hunt played 32 games in the 14/15 season, 95 games for Wednesday in the following 2 seasons, and virtually every game for Bristol this season, Crock?

FACTS? ''Unmitigated Disaster'' ''Hutchinson?'' ''Didn't Do Much Else'' huh

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I am not really interested in Jack Hunt to be honest.

I am more interested in why some people think Pearce would make a better job of recruitment than Modesto and Anigo.

So far I see no evidence.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

I am not really interested in Jack Hunt to be honest.

I am more interested in why some people think Pearce would make a better job of recruitment than Modesto and Anigo.

So far I see no evidence.

let's pretend successful football clubs are really about making money, signing players who are worth something, ie an assett or developing young players into .. financial assetts 

for most of the last 25 years Nottingham Forest have forgotten that profit, acquiring assetts, developing players into valuable assetts is what brings success, ultimately a combination of a manager/recruitment and an intelligent ambitious owner who reinvests and then some.

who is Nottingham Forests most valuable assett?  A Modesto and Anigo signing?  Does the owner actually trust them to spend money anymore since Carvalho?  

Ironic that potentially, or maybe certainly based on PL demand, Matty Cash, a Stuart Pearce signing in October 2014 is the biggest financial assett at this moment in time.  

Who the f**k is Hutchinson anyway?

[woody]

This is a good debate. Why terminate it other than the moderators disagreeing with the opposing side of the debate? Quite right to delete the offensive ones but that’s what you’re there for with respect.

The transfer men have had had mixed fortunes, no doubt about it. But that will happen whether we’re sifting through the bargain basement as it seems we were in January or even if we are spending big as with Cavalho. In my opinion, the more pertinent question ought to be ‘why are we not spending a little more to take us over the line?’

Money doesn’t guarantee success but it certainly helps. This manager has performed admirably and really deserved a lot more from the hierarchy in January. The squad is threadbare in terms of quality. The first team now virtually picks itself and after that, I wince at the names that appear in the event of injuries.

So was it actually the transfer team that let us down in Jan or was it Mr Marinakos?

[Tricky]

This is a good debate. Why terminate it other than the moderators disagreeing with the opposing side of the debate? Quite right to delete the offensive ones but that’s what you’re there for with respect.

The transfer men have had had mixed fortunes, no doubt about it. But that will happen whether we’re sifting through the bargain basement as it seems we were in January or even if we are spending big as with Cavalho. In my opinion, the more pertinent question ought to be ‘why are we not spending a little more to take us over the line?’

Money doesn’t guarantee success but it certainly helps. This manager has performed admirably and really deserved a lot more from the hierarchy in January. The squad is threadbare in terms of quality. The first team now virtually picks itself and after that, I wince at the names that appear in the event of injuries.

So was it actually the transfer team that let us down in Jan or was it Mr Marinakos?

Or was it the options (or lack of options) available to us? Players that would slot into the way this current squad think? into the way Sabri wants his team to play? with the mentality of wanting to be here and wanting to be a part of the success we could get? without disrupting the changing room team spirit through high wage demands?

[PsychoStanleyStone]

This is a good debate ... So was it actually the transfer team that let us down in Jan or was it Mr Marinakos?

Or was it the options (or lack of options) available to us? Players that would slot into the way this current squad think? into the way Sabri wants his team to play? with the mentality of wanting to be here and wanting to be a part of the success we could get? without disrupting the changing room team spirit through high wage demands?

must be way over 40 signings in less than 3 seasons, I can totally understand the owner concluding for the time being, particularly in January that less is more, could be all sorts of other conspiracy theories but i'll stick with this thought for now

the recruitment does seem to be a mystical trinity, who signed who, who signed Carv?  Who was the guy in the flasher mac sat next to AK?  Did Warbs really get the bullet for not signing enough or spending enough?  Who signed Sammy?  Did Tachtisides really exist?  Is EM's cheque book lying on the bottom next to 6 US F16 jets in the Bermuda Triangle?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

This is a good debate. Why terminate it other than the moderators disagreeing with the opposing side of the debate? Quite right to delete the offensive ones but that’s what you’re there for with respect.

The transfer men have had had mixed fortunes, no doubt about it. But that will happen whether we’re sifting through the bargain basement as it seems we were in January or even if we are spending big as with Cavalho. In my opinion, the more pertinent question ought to be ‘why are we not spending a little more to take us over the line?’

Money doesn’t guarantee success but it certainly helps. This manager has performed admirably and really deserved a lot more from the hierarchy in January. The squad is threadbare in terms of quality. The first team now virtually picks itself and after that, I wince at the names that appear in the event of injuries.

So was it actually the transfer team that let us down in Jan or was it Mr Marinakos?

What are you on about? Can people stop beating me with this nonsense highlighted above. It gets a tad annoying. It got to the verge of being locked when slanderous posts were made against our owners which have since been removed. If you came on here regularly and had been following the debate then you would know that.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I am not really interested in Jack Hunt to be honest.

I am more interested in why some people think Pearce would make a better job of recruitment than Modesto and Anigo.

So far I see no evidence.

let's pretend successful football clubs are really about making money, signing players who are worth something, ie an assett or developing young players into .. financial assetts 

for most of the last 25 years Nottingham Forest have forgotten that profit, acquiring assetts, developing players into valuable assetts is what brings success, ultimately a combination of a manager/recruitment and an intelligent ambitious owner who reinvests and then some.

who is Nottingham Forests most valuable assett?  A Modesto and Anigo signing?  Does the owner actually trust them to spend money anymore since Carvalho?  

Ironic that potentially, or maybe certainly based on PL demand, Matty Cash, a Stuart Pearce signing in October 2014 is the biggest financial assett at this moment in time.  

Who the f**k is Hutchinson anyway?

PSS I don't want to pretend anything. I prefer to stick with facts.

What has Carvalho got to do with Modesto and Anigo? Nothing. He was a Mendes signing.

Yes the owner does trust them with money and the owner will only surround himself with people who he knows well and who he trusts which is why Stuart Pearce will never work for Marinakis.

Do you honestly think that Matty Cash was a Pearce signing? He was an Academy signing probably down to Gary Brazil and his staff. He joined us when he was 16.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

I am not really interested in Jack Hunt to be honest.

I am more interested in why some people think Pearce would make a better job of recruitment than Modesto and Anigo.

So far I see no evidence.

let's pretend successful football clubs are really about making money, signing players who are worth something, ie an assett or developing young players into .. financial assetts 

for most of the last 25 years Nottingham Forest have forgotten that profit, acquiring assetts, developing players into valuable assetts is what brings success, ultimately a combination of a manager/recruitment and an intelligent ambitious owner who reinvests and then some.

who is Nottingham Forests most valuable assett?  A Modesto and Anigo signing?  Does the owner actually trust them to spend money anymore since Carvalho?  

Ironic that potentially, or maybe certainly based on PL demand, Matty Cash, a Stuart Pearce signing in October 2014 is the biggest financial assett at this moment in time.  

Who the f**k is Hutchinson anyway?

PSS I don't want to pretend anything. I prefer to stick with facts.

What has Carvalho got to do with Modesto and Anigo? Nothing. He was a Mendes signing.

Yes the owner does trust them with money and the owner will only surround himself with people who he knows well and who he trusts which is why Stuart Pearce will never work for Marinakis.

Do you honestly think that Matty Cash was a Pearce signing? He was an Academy signing probably down to Gary Brazil and his staff. He joined us when he was 16.

I think Stuart Pearce was there when Matty Cash signed, i think Stuart Pearce spoke to him before, during and after the process

Now the Stuart Pearce character assasination has gone from being an unmitigated disaster, not achieving much and now to being untrustworthy, interesting, any facts to back this one up?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I am not really interested in Jack Hunt to be honest.

I am more interested in why some people think Pearce would make a better job of recruitment than Modesto and Anigo.

So far I see no evidence.

let's pretend successful football clubs are really about making money, signing players who are worth something, ie an assett or developing young players into .. financial assetts 

for most of the last 25 years Nottingham Forest have forgotten that profit, acquiring assetts, developing players into valuable assetts is what brings success, ultimately a combination of a manager/recruitment and an intelligent ambitious owner who reinvests and then some.

who is Nottingham Forests most valuable assett?  A Modesto and Anigo signing?  Does the owner actually trust them to spend money anymore since Carvalho?  

Ironic that potentially, or maybe certainly based on PL demand, Matty Cash, a Stuart Pearce signing in October 2014 is the biggest financial assett at this moment in time.  

Who the f**k is Hutchinson anyway?

PSS I don't want to pretend anything. I prefer to stick with facts.

What has Carvalho got to do with Modesto and Anigo? Nothing. He was a Mendes signing.

Yes the owner does trust them with money and the owner will only surround himself with people who he knows well and who he trusts which is why Stuart Pearce will never work for Marinakis.

Do you honestly think that Matty Cash was a Pearce signing? He was an Academy signing probably down to Gary Brazil and his staff. He joined us when he was 16.

I think Stuart Pearce was there when Matty Cash signed, i think Stuart Pearce spoke to him before, during and after the process

Now the Stuart Pearce character assasination has gone from being an unmitigated disaster, not achieving much and now to being untrustworthy, interesting, any facts to back this one up?

PSS. Pearce was first team manager. Cash was signed for The Academy by The Academy. Get it? 

For the record I like Stuart Pearce and I have never ever slagged him off in any way shape or form.